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You're so far far behind the times.... customer in Pub rings private hire..... Hello sir... what kind of vehicle do you need, four, five or six seater..... four-seater please...... Ring Ring... ring ring...... your car is out side....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Yes, and they all lived happily ever after?

That's the ideal. That's what PH would have you believe.

Except that the whole inefficiency is built into the supply side of the equation. Because even if this does happen, then the PH driver has just come off a bogey. Or his next one's a bogey. Or he's been pulled halfway across the world to get to the fare. And it is he paying the fuel at up to 25p per mile. And if he's late, the punter steps outside and hails a black.

And hacks now have six seaters anyway. And if the trade weren't such luddites (remember the ridiculous furore over the turning circle, maintained as a vested interest) then they'd already have 8 and even 12 seaters in the fleet.

What holds back PH is the company owner mentality. It is geared to making money for the owner. There is no real regard for those actually doing the work. That's why companies can offer up to 30% discount. because its not the company paying for it. That's why companies can increase the fees for contract jobs from 7 to 10 percent in the midst of the biggest downturn of trade in living memory, while making extra cash from the customer, because they know that individual desperation will keep their drivers welded to their saddles. This is why at inspection time, it's the drivers who have to pay for any vandalism done to the cars, even though it's not their fault. And this is why owners can tell drivers that they're responsible for high speed punctures because after all, why should the owner pay when he's in his bed at the time and its nothing to do with him.

Mr T. You may know different. But I suspect my direct experience is more typical. And the nett result is that it is ultimately the customer who suffers. Drivers working inordinately long hours to make up for owner's greed can only mitigate against customer safety. And LAs must know this. The consequence of cheapskate tariffs that drivers have to fund means safety is compromised.

The job to Wick, and the 15 miles beyond, proves it. A guy in the saddle for 21 hours means that all road users are being put at risk, not just the customers. Would you want to meet this guy on the A9 at the end of his trip?

And that's how PH operates.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

I think you are correct, but let me help you with putting it into plain and simple terms so those not up to spec can follow what you mean.

THE ONLY BENEFICIARY IN ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE THE 3 PEOPLE WHO OWN THE LARGEST OF THE PH COMPANIES, AND ALL THAT WORK FOR THEM WILL SIMPLY BE THE PIDGEONS IN THE PARK FIGHTING OVER LOW GRADE SCRAPS THE BOSSES ALLOW THEM TO FIGHT OVER.


I have a solution to this but cannot post it, but it would murder the greedy and assist the needy.

Jim.. believe it or not I believe that taxi drivers and private hire drivers work far too many hours for what they are receiving in payment.. on the whole... and life should be fairer.... but it is not.. and every day is a battle to survive.

when I read your description of private hire based on your local knowledge it reminds me of Sefton 10 years ago.... today.. private hire cars are parked in streets all over Sefton and Liverpool.... 2900 of them... when a customer rings for a private hire vehicle.. that vehicle will be no more than three minutes away... by the time the customer has put down the phone and put on their coat... the car is outside.... as easy as that... and they are cheap. and it won't be long before this is the case in Edinburgh.... and having more Hackney's will not solve your problem. the company with the work is where the drivers will be.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Which proves my point.

The premise is that the company that gets the work will be the cheapest. And this is what drives PH. Make it cheap and the customers will pile themselves high. Which may work in a time of plenty, but it aint working now.

LAs are gonna have to see that cheap tariffs are leading to long hours being worked. And if tachos are what will be required to ensure public safety then that's what we need. Tariffs will feed from that. Or are you saying that drivers working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week are OK?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

I obviously don't think drivers working long hours is OK... but the Law commission do.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

So tell us how you would IMPROVE the regulation that governs Edinburgh Jasbar

Edinburgh, the taxi regulation that governs us is in my opinion does provide as you put it a real quality service to the public of Edinburgh, that also includes a service that is not saturated with desperatley seeking cabbies, hey just like your opinion of phcniggers, there is no cabni**** in the trade i work in so you must be basing your cabni**** comment on your experiance working in the phc trade, this view is the result of a de-restricted service isn't it Jasbar, the Taxi trade in Edinburgh is up to its max as far as regulation goes unless you can prove and tell us otherwise Up todate you havn't have you

So go on give us a pause for thought

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Thank you for reminding me how much I despise you Dougie. You made my day.

Thankfully I don't have to devote time trying to communicate with illiterates. And no one gives a tuppenny toss about your opinion.

Your little life's illusion is only in your own twisted mind. No one else sees it. Or you.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

24 hours Jasbar and the response is the same as alway's, you can't improve our regulated quality taxi service can you, you can only abuse those who abide by it, you have no substance to your argument, again i give you the oppertunity to outline your improvements to the current regulation that Governs the Edinburgh taxi trade, c'mon big boy

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Another thread killed by the i lliterate then.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Not really Jas, he asked you for an answer to a question and you failed to provide one.

Doom, all the questions Dougie has ever asked have been answered and on many occasions.

Dougie simply lacks the capacity to assimilate information, and when this is the case, there's not much one can do about. It's sad to say that, for the most part, there's rarely anything new by way of discussion on this forum. And unfortunately, people like Dougie are in the majority, while those in the minority, just want out, and for very good reasons.

If you want a chance to enlighten us on a better form of regulation for Edinburgh's HC trade then go on Skull, the platform is all yours, remind me again what the plan is

I put my alternative plan to the status quo up for debate, if its ever rejected publicly i will accept that my peers know better, no lifetime mission from me

So lets see how you or Jasbar would improve the regulation of the Edinburgh taxi trade, c'mon Skull or Jasbar the full script as i have already done mine you owe it to the debate You know two sides to the story, we have one side as an alternative lets hear "it again".

On you go Its 48 hours and counting, you know you want to but fear it don't you, i feared it but beared it and put it up for scrutiny didn't i

Your turn Oh and its 2 against 1 (me)

This should be good

Hold the front page will i

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Oh dear, now let me, think. The London model, oh yes that's right. Quality controls coupled with higher driver and vehicle standards but with no artificial licence plate restriction. Oh and with the same controls applied to the Ph, trade. This means no one being allowed to do, which is, in effect, the same job, on an equal tariff, and with no real qualifications?

Oh and then there was the point of controlling your own tariff through independent and impartial bodies deciding, what that tariff should be, and without daft councillors having the last say.

Oh and I seem to remember drivers being afforded equal rights, when facing complaints like any other member of the public.

There is more, but I'm just thinking off the top of my head.

Perhaps you would like to give your input Jim? Although, I can appreciate how dealing with feckwits like Dougie, can be extremely tedious, at the very least.

Anyhoo Dougie, it's too late for any of the above. Your trades [edited by admin], and it's only going to get worse.

You've said it all Skull.

fact is that without the council's protection racket the poor dear owners in the taxi trade in Edinburgh wouldn't survive.

That's because they're not real businessmen.

But you can't imagine them waxing lyrical at the pool on holiday fessing up to not being a real businessman, just a wee pretendy one that needs the council's restriction to let them maintain their position.

Fact is that the council are considering matters. But my new position may force me into action to force their hand. Who can afford to wait forever?

The simple truth is that it can't be right that guys who want to work, who are trained to work, and with no real reason why they shouldn't be allowed to do so, are denied to protect a privileged minority.

That Dougie thinks this is acceptable simply shows us why this country is fecked. Can you imagine guys poised to go over the top, and dying to defend the Dougies of this nation?

It's not going to happen. Dougie exists because the council allows him to. Any change and he's deep in the mire. Because the doesn't have the skill, intelligence and drive to compete in a situation where he's not spoon fed.

Dougie is currently irrelevant. His views can not prevail. It's only a matter of time.

The difference between Dougie and Dewar is at least Dewar had the wit to cash in.

Dougie is just witless.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"