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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:40 am 
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Ultimately the venture capatilists, who fund this, will want a healthy return and that can only come from either of two places. The customer or the driver.


You're wrong Les.....according to Skullconomics! Although only a few years ago we witnessed the very near collapse of the whole capitalist system and which is still very insecure, Skull believes investors are just willing to throw their money at capital investment projects with no plan for a return :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie wrote:
For Uber to do as you predict Skull the fences they need to jump are, driver participation ((plenty evidence of mistreatment)) they need App users ((Edinburgh is a small city in comparison to NY, India and London etc They won't get away with the bad press here, the App market is not as big as you think, Every company in Edinburgh including Ph operate their own Ridesharing App, CRT&CC Apps are well established, customers trust because of the reliability&service of our Apps, the customer has plenty of back up using our App, plenty of evidence within Ubers T&Cs that they are not responsible for driver behaviour etc)) They need local regulation to turn a blind eye to their working practices ((That's not going to happen, our trade won't allow it, the council won't allow it, they have a tram to pay for, they also have a huge shortfall in their budget, the last thing they need is a Taxi Price War, they also have the power to limit private hire, the last thing our council needs is a saturated market, they are trying to promote 20 mph zones, a cleaner greener City))

Driver Participation
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3 huge fences, not hurdles but big jaggy fences Skull, the same ones you and your fellow crusader faced when trying to screw a trade, how did you's get on, you's fell at the first, you's kept trying but again you's just kept on falling, that should be failing but it's close enough.

If Uber does enter the market it'll have done so because of the trade, we'll fight fire with fire Skull, they will play by the rules we play by, remember Scotlands regulations differ from ((envied by)) England, those regulations are going to get a whole lot tighter.

So it's game on, Uber are hoping to be at the starting line, you again and again and again are at the starting line, let's see how you both clear the big jaggy fences, you don't half make some laughable predictions Skull, tell us one Cmon just one where you have been proved right, you know bang on I told you so :roll:


Reliability&service will win the day in the App war, I'm thinking all the publicity surrounding Uber may work in a well established, well served, no need to upload bank details Apps favour, the City Cab App works, it's well established, it's well served by drivers and our customers are safe in the knowledge the details they provide are minimal, I ask all my App customers their opinion on our App, they love it, they think it's great, Uber and Get taxi have no chance against a well established App in Edinburgh, the market is to small, I can't see them ever becoming reliable, we've seen it since I started 17 years ago, only a hardcore amount of drivers work the circuit at times of high demand, the majority who don't will continue to work the street, I'm confident our trade will win through and hey we may pick up more App customers once they realise the App we use is vastly superior when it comes to reliability&service :D

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:37 pm 
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You should watch the recent two programme series on BBC "The super rich and us",
An insight to where the money always ends up.
They throw a few crumbs to entice us in then we are nailed to the floor.
Not too long ago a lot of people were persuaded to vote for de mutualisation in a variety of financial institutions. They were persuaded to vote "yes" as they would receive a windfall bonus. Happy Days. Until a few years later their policies matured and they generally found themselves thousands of pounds short of the original forecast they were promised when they took the policy out.

Offers will be made to attract customers and drivers to entice them too view the new service as an improvement but as we see from other areas where these businesses have become well established the driver will not be the winner in the long run.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:40 pm 
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For Uber to do as you predict Skull the fences they need to jump are, driver participation ((plenty evidence of mistreatment)) they need App users ((Edinburgh is a small city in comparison to NY, India and London etc They won't get away with the bad press here, the App market is not as big as you think, Every company in Edinburgh including Ph operate their own Ridesharing App, CRT&CC Apps are well established, customers trust because of the reliability&service of our Apps, the customer has plenty of back up using our App, plenty of evidence within Ubers T&Cs that they are not responsible for driver behaviour etc)) They need local regulation to turn a blind eye to their working practices ((That's not going to happen, our trade won't allow it, the council won't allow it, they have a tram to pay for, they also have a huge shortfall in their budget, the last thing they need is a Taxi Price War, they also have the power to limit private hire, the last thing our council needs is a saturated market, they are trying to promote 20 mph zones, a cleaner greener City))

Driver Participation
App Users
Local regulation

3 huge fences, not hurdles but big jaggy fences Skull, the same ones you and your fellow crusader faced when trying to screw a trade, how did you's get on, you's fell at the first, you's kept trying but again you's just kept on falling, that should be failing but it's close enough.

If Uber does enter the market it'll have done so because of the trade, we'll fight fire with fire Skull, they will play by the rules we play by, remember Scotlands regulations differ from ((envied by)) England, those regulations are going to get a whole lot tighter.

So it's game on, Uber are hoping to be at the starting line, you again and again and again are at the starting line, let's see how you both clear the big jaggy fences, you don't half make some laughable predictions Skull, tell us one Cmon just one where you have been proved right, you know bang on I told you so :roll:


Reliability&service will win the day in the App war, I'm thinking all the publicity surrounding Uber may work in a well established, well served, no need to upload bank details Apps favour, the City Cab App works, it's well established, it's well served by drivers and our customers are safe in the knowledge the details they provide are minimal, I ask all my App customers their opinion on our App, they love it, they think it's great, Uber and Get taxi have no chance against a well established App in Edinburgh, the market is to small, I can't see them ever becoming reliable, we've seen it since I started 17 years ago, only a hardcore amount of drivers work the circuit at times of high demand, the majority who don't will continue to work the street, I'm confident our trade will win through and hey we may pick up more App customers once they realise the App we use is vastly superior when it comes to reliability&service :D


Dougie, I'm going to give you a chance to rethink what you have written starting with "driver participation" as drivers make up three quarters of your trade. Owners are in the minority and are probably out numbered 3:1. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

So I'll get back to this later on. Oh and Dougie, do me favour try and cut down this incoherent woffle to a few sentences or perhaps a paragraph or two with some meaning. Oh and you might want to think about using a full-stop/period every now and then to break up this endless nonsensical ramble. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:55 pm 
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Ubers working practices/T&Cs are an advantage to Edinburgh's trade, there are enough breaches and plenty of evidence of those differences of our regulations for our trade to say to our regulators no way, Unfair competition and a severe disregard for customer safety, our trade will stand together on this one, any kind of transportation including Rideshare companies that carries passengers must adhere to the same regulations, there has to be a level playing field, our trade has to be prepared to go the full hog when it comes to objecting to Ubers working practices T&Cs etc We have to go as far as it takes to ensure a Fair competitive enviroment, where there is no advantage other than discount, discounting should be the only advantage.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Gary I write the way I do, I take plenty of air in when reading your posts :lol:

I'm an owner but most importantly I'm a driver just like the other 98%, I can say quite clearly drivers at times of high demand won't service Apps that are not connected to a circuit, fact :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie wrote:
Gary I write the way I do, I take plenty of air in when reading your posts :lol:

I'm an owner but most importantly I'm a driver just like the other 98%, I can say quite clearly drivers at times of high demand won't service Apps that are not connected to a circuit, fact :wink:


Dougie you talk some pish. #-o #-o #-o

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I'm an owner but most importantly I'm a driver just like the other 98%,


#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

No Dougie you are the owner of a taxi and whether you drive it or not is irrelevant. Drivers don't own taxis, they drive taxis and they outnumber owners 3:1. As an owner you are in the minority and as a driver, the majority. So how many drivers are there? Around four to five thousand perhaps more? Even if 1000 sign up that's a lot of drivers with apps on their phones. And why should they have any loyalty to the parasitic owners of City Cabs or CRT who are already charging them ridiculous rentals? #-o #-o #-o #-o


So Dougie, that blows your driver participation theory out of the water. #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Dougie wrties:

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Apps and app users are the future, there numbers are increasing every day - simples =D> =D> =D> =D>

And as for local regulation these app companies are already complying with regulations. =D> =D> =D> =D>

Oh and Dougie when someone like Artur writes "bravo, bravo" you have to take into account he's an idiot that believes working for ECPH is a "shrewd move" so don't get carried away. #-o #-o #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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At times of high demand, it's mostly owners that cover the work, I'm sure the stats prove that mostly drivers ignore the system preffering to work the streets, I don't see an App making much of a difference, I can't see loyalty to an App that provides no back up, Uber treat their drivers and owners like sh-t, your on your own with Uber :roll:

I also don't hear many complaints, infact none concerning the cost of renting a Cab, if you know anyone they are welcome to come on hear and air their complaint :roll:


I'm starting to think to much fresh air is doing you harm Skull, maybe you should try budgie sitting :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie wrote:
At times of high demand, it's mostly owners that cover the work, I'm sure the stats prove that mostly drivers ignore the system preffering to work the streets, I don't see an App making much of a difference, I can't see loyalty to an App that provides no back up, Uber treat their drivers and owners like sh-t, your on your own with Uber :roll:

I also don't hear many complaints, infact none concerning the cost of renting a Cab, if you know anyone they are welcome to come on hear and air their complaint :roll:


I'm starting to think to much fresh air is doing you harm Skull, maybe you should try budgie sitting :lol: :lol: :lol:


Where do you get this pish? #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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I don't see an App making much of a difference,


Really... :shock:

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I can't see loyalty to an App that provides no back up,



What are you talking about? #-o

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Uber treat their drivers and owners like sh-t, your on your own with Uber


Uber is a choice, take the job or not? It couldn't be any simpler. Uber is TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM. They don't have owners and drivers like City Cabs or a corner street office run by a committee. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o You are paying to be put in contact with the service user. It's an electronic hailing system - THE END. =D> =D> =D> =D>

Dougie I'm not answering any more of your posts if this is the tripe you come out with, it's like you are losing it!! You just rattle out nonsense. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Private Reggie wrote:
At times of high demand, it's mostly owners that cover the work, I'm sure the stats prove that mostly drivers ignore the system preffering to work the streets,


Seriously Dougie are you just making stuff up again?? I'm sure the stats must prove that. So you have no idea but lets blame the drivers. You vote for UKIP by any chance?

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I don't see an App making much of a difference, I can't see loyalty to an App that provides no back up, Uber treat their drivers and owners like sh-t, your on your own with Uber :roll:


Doesn't sound like its just Uber that hold their drivers in contempt.

Is it only owners that can join the ETA?

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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Artur and molshy wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
At times of high demand, it's mostly owners that cover the work, I'm sure the stats prove that mostly drivers ignore the system preffering to work the streets,


Seriously Dougie are you just making stuff up again?? I'm sure the stats must prove that. So you have no idea but lets blame the drivers. You vote for UKIP by any chance?

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I don't see an App making much of a difference, I can't see loyalty to an App that provides no back up, Uber treat their drivers and owners like sh-t, your on your own with Uber :roll:


Doesn't sound like its just Uber that hold their drivers in contempt.

Is it only owners that can join the ETA?


Your ETA is a good idea in principle but it will fail like every other attempt at a Taxi Drivers Association and for a few good reasons but that's your call, give it a bash you might get lucky. =D> =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: RIP
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The point I'm making Artur is what chance has stand alone Apps got when at times of high demand drivers including some owners run mobile, some prefer to run mobile out to the airport, bypassing quality work, at times of high demand I presume owners are more loyal to the work on the system than jockey's, there are a lot of drivers in CC that also work the system, that's the advantage we have over stand alone App companies, it would be interesting to see how many of the 70+ signed up Get Taxi drivers worked the App yesterday which was my busiest day for a very long time, I did 53 jobs in my shift yesterday the vast majority radio work which included App jobs, Les has my permission to publish my stats anytime, I don't know if you where at the Airport when reading my post, maybe a few aeroplanes where flying over head, you know mixing up signals and signs, I don't know who you are but there is certainly something fishy about you :lol:

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Private Reggie wrote:
The point I'm making Artur is what chance has stand alone Apps got when at times of high demand drivers including some owners run mobile, some prefer to run mobile out to the airport, bypassing quality work, at times of high demand I presume owners are more loyal to the work on the system than jockey's, there are a lot of drivers in CC that also work the system, that's the advantage we have over stand alone App companies, it would be interesting to see how many of the 70+ signed up Get Taxi drivers worked the App yesterday which was my busiest day for a very long time, I did 53 jobs in my shift yesterday the vast majority radio work which included App jobs, Les has my permission to publish my stats anytime, I don't know if you where at the Airport when reading my post, maybe a few aeroplanes where flying over head, you know mixing up signals and signs, I don't know who you are but there is certainly something fishy about you :lol:


You won't ever really change people's working practices. You just have to accept that will happen but i disagree with your generalisation. Owners and drivers is not a divide you should try to create as we face a real challenge from Uber.

Seems a bit counter productive if city cabs members and drivers are signing up to this app.

What is with you and skull always wanting to show or meet. I've no desire to see you stats just like when i'm working it does my brain in on a two car order and the other driver goes through his jobs that night. Wish i was rude enough to repeat BORING loudly. Those are Bear Grylls moments for me in this game :) Lets not start publishing takings in case Skull is working for the IR.

Fear not who i am Private Reggie. I'm merely someone who's thankful of the living the taxis has given me for sitting on my erchie. I think it's important that companies that started in 1925 are worth the effort to keep going through relatively hard work by all. But sadly we live in an individual everyone out for themselves world these days.


By the way i only know you're Dougie through Skull naming you here and that was without the jacket :D

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Private Reggie wrote:
The point I'm making Artur is what chance has stand alone Apps got when at times of high demand drivers including some owners run mobile, some prefer to run mobile out to the airport, bypassing quality work, at times of high demand I presume owners are more loyal to the work on the system than jockey's, there are a lot of drivers in CC that also work the system, that's the advantage we have over stand alone App companies, it would be interesting to see how many of the 70+ signed up Get Taxi drivers worked the App yesterday which was my busiest day for a very long time, I did 53 jobs in my shift yesterday the vast majority radio work which included App jobs, Les has my permission to publish my stats anytime, I don't know if you where at the Airport when reading my post, maybe a few aeroplanes where flying over head, you know mixing up signals and signs, I don't know who you are but there is certainly something fishy about you :lol:


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Dougie, you are as mad as a box of frogs... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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