gusmac wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
Well I can't understand those photos and maps.
I mean the photo says "Seaview of English Sea from St Andrews", yet the photo is presumably taken facing north, so how on earth could it be a seaview of the English sea if the boundary is the line in red on the map?:


And even if you were looking out towards the boundary that must be pushing a hundred miles away from St Andrews, surely, so how on earth could you possibly see English waters - the horizon only stretches 11 miles or so
And if you look at this other link, the map is obviously from the same people, but they've shifted the starting point of the boundary from Berwick-on-Tweed to North Berwick
http://www.oilofscotland.org/Westminste ... orders.pdfThe text doesn't make much sense either. Just looks like some kids playing with a crayon set

The pics are crap so who gives a feck?
Not much of a defence, Dusty.
I'll grant you the pictures are crap and a bit melodramatic.
That doesn't make it any the less of a land (sea) grab.
It's basically political hyperbole and fundamentally misleading, that's the problem with it.
Look at the proper map of the border and you can see how the picture and text above misrepresent the situation, particularly when they move the border from Berwick-on-Tweed to North Berwick
Given the way these things work it looks to make a lot more sense to have the boundary where it is rather than a horizontal line eastwards from Berwick, don't you think?

Anyway, what's the precise relevance of the border shift? From what I can see it was just about clarifying the borders for the purposes of devolution - for the maritime agencies and the like - rather than any kind of land grab, whatever the flag-wavers may say. If and when Scotland gains independence then these borders and other matters (such as Scotland's share of the national debt) will be up for negotiation.
The kind of stuff on that website has as much relevanc to the debate than Alex Salmond yeterday comparing Scotland to Ireland a hundred years ago
I prefer the Taiwanese take on what's happening
httpp://youtu.be/YiIiXjjEcjE