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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:37 pm 
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The thing that bothers me about these apps is what happens when they have the "lions share" of the work ? Do they start raising their fees,because they have a monopoly.The same way firms of ph/hackney do.Did Hailo not set out in London as hackney only,then thought will have a bit of the oh aswell.The likes of Google and others are only in it for one thing and it ain't the workers.

They will always have to remain competitive, or they will lose customers or drivers.

In terms of google, like me you use it a number of times a day. How much does it cost you to use it?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:39 pm 
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I'm actually not, and I can do maths but those numbers do not tell the whole story. However much anyone likes or dislikes them it has no bearing on the fact that they have been very successful at what they do, and they intend to keep it that way. They know what they're doing.

No one doubts they are a well run company that know their trade well, however where they are failing is they don't actually know drivers as well as they pretend.

Drivers need to earn a reasonable living, £45-£65 a day isn't a good living, it's starvation money.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:41 pm 
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So do you think that in 2 weeks they can reach enough potential clients with marketing etc to keep those 100 drivers in work? Only time will tell.

They don't need to be able to supply those drivers a full weeks work, drivers will also be doing their existing work.

As I said above, no firm starts with 2000 cars, it's get built over time.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:26 pm 
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I'm actually not, and I can do maths but those numbers do not tell the whole story. However much anyone likes or dislikes them it has no bearing on the fact that they have been very successful at what they do, and they intend to keep it that way. They know what they're doing.

No one doubts they are a well run company that know their trade well, however where they are failing is they don't actually know drivers as well as they pretend.

Drivers need to earn a reasonable living, £45-£65 a day isn't a good living, it's starvation money.
Do you know what D.E.L.T.A stands for or how they came about? It was started by 3 disgruntled drivers from SRC who thought they could do a better job, so they called it the Drivers Established Licensed Taxi Agency.. Believe me, they know their drivers. And £45-£65 is not a full days work, maybe 3 or 4 hours in the day, 2 or 3 hours in the night to take that much. a couple of saturdays ago i worked 14 hours and did £270, i wouldn't say this is particularly exceptional for the hours worked. do you still think it's that difficult for drivers to earn a living?

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do you still think it's that difficult for drivers to earn a living?

Then why haven't they got drivers queuing at the door?

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do you still think it's that difficult for drivers to earn a living?

Then why haven't they got drivers queuing at the door?

They have but not ones that can pass the knowledge test it seems :lol:

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couple of saturdays ago i worked 14 hours and did £270


14 hours ffs. I'm sure there's a story on here a while back about a driver that killed somebody after a 14 hour shift. Why do you feel the need to do 14 hours?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:28 pm 
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couple of saturdays ago i worked 14 hours and did £270


14 hours ffs. I'm sure there's a story on here a while back about a driver that killed somebody after a 14 hour shift. Why do you feel the need to do 14 hours?
I don't think it's too excessive. I was out about 15 hours but had two breaks of about half an hour each. I'm used to doing long hours from previous jobs. That weekend, there were events on and work was aplenty. What can I say, I want to put money in the bank.

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couple of saturdays ago i worked 14 hours and did £270


14 hours ffs. I'm sure there's a story on here a while back about a driver that killed somebody after a 14 hour shift. Why do you feel the need to do 14 hours?
I don't think it's too excessive. I was out about 15 hours but had two breaks of about half an hour each. I'm used to doing long hours from previous jobs. That weekend, there were events on and work was aplenty. What can I say, I want to put money in the bank.


Work was aplenty and you did approx £20 an hour, isn't that the norm on a Saturday night?

Anyway this is about whether or not the knowledge test in Sefton should be improved or got rid of, I personally think with the advent of Apps around the corner and the need for drivers to be able to move around their working area efficiently and safely without being able to ask operators where this is or that is and without losing concentration because they're following a satnav, now more than ever I believe the knowledge test is important.

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Work was aplenty and you did approx £20 an hour, isn't that the norm on a Saturday night?
Yes that's why I said it wasn't exceptional. The traffic in the daytime was terrible in central Liverpool because half the roads were closed plus there was about 3 times as much traffic as there normally is because of the events. So the 3 fares I got into that area in the day necessitated sitting in traffic for 20-30 minutes to get back out again.

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Anyway this is about whether or not the knowledge test in Sefton should be improved or got rid of, I personally think with the advent of Apps around the corner and the need for drivers to be able to move around their working area efficiently and safely without being able to ask operators where this is or that is and without losing concentration because they're following a satnav, now more than ever I believe the knowledge test is important.
This is true, but what are they supposed to do about the fact that many Sefton drivers also work in Liverpool and Knowsley and vice versa- should they also be tested on those areas? I think all three areas should be amalgamated into one licensing authority and drivers can be badged in one or all areas depending on which knowledge they've passed, similar to london. After all it's one big metropolitan area, just separated into three licensing authorities.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:17 pm 
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This is true, but what are they supposed to do about the fact that many Sefton drivers also work in Liverpool and Knowsley and vice versa- should they also be tested on those areas? I think all three areas should be amalgamated into one licensing authority and drivers can be badged in one or all areas depending on which knowledge they've passed, similar to london. After all it's one big metropolitan area, just separated into three licensing authorities.


Ah a fan of the all Merseyside licence too, wow why am I not surprised. Why not go the whole hog and have a national licence and drivers can be badged in one of the areas depending on their knowledge :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:34 pm 
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Ah a fan of the all Merseyside licence too, wow why am I not surprised. Why not go the whole hog and have a national licence and drivers can be badged in one of the areas depending on their knowledge :wink:
Why not indeed. As long as the drivers have been tested on the areas they're likely to be working in I don't see an issue. The fact is that the situation now where we have Liverpool taxi drivers saying "they are taking our work" etc etc because THE PUBLIC would rather call Delta to come and pick them up in Liverpool, is a joke. A driver cannot hold 2 badges and a car cannot have 2 plates so what are they to do? Obviously the drivers have to look after themselves and their families and go with the option that provides the most work.

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Ah a fan of the all Merseyside licence too, wow why am I not surprised. Why not go the whole hog and have a national licence and drivers can be badged in one of the areas depending on their knowledge :wink:
Why not indeed. As long as the drivers have been tested on the areas they're likely to be working in I don't see an issue. The fact is that the situation now where we have Liverpool taxi drivers saying "they are taking our work" etc etc because THE PUBLIC would rather call Delta to come and pick them up in Liverpool, is a joke. A driver cannot hold 2 badges and a car cannot have 2 plates so what are they to do? Obviously the drivers have to look after themselves and their families and go with the option that provides the most work.


Well I guess Delta shouldn't be asking for no knowledge test but a much broader knowledge test, I mean if it's so good to work for Delta earnings wise the drivers won't mind learning all the areas that they cover on a daily basis.

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Ah a fan of the all Merseyside licence too, wow why am I not surprised. Why not go the whole hog and have a national licence and drivers can be badged in one of the areas depending on their knowledge :wink:
Why not indeed. As long as the drivers have been tested on the areas they're likely to be working in I don't see an issue. The fact is that the situation now where we have Liverpool taxi drivers saying "they are taking our work" etc etc because THE PUBLIC would rather call Delta to come and pick them up in Liverpool, is a joke. A driver cannot hold 2 badges and a car cannot have 2 plates so what are they to do? Obviously the drivers have to look after themselves and their families and go with the option that provides the most work.


Well I guess Delta shouldn't be asking for no knowledge test but a much broader knowledge test, I mean if it's so good to work for Delta earnings wise the drivers won't mind learning all the areas that they cover on a daily basis.
That's very true but it would have to be Delta's own knowledge test as there are many Sefton drivers who only work in north Sefton and don't come near Liverpool unless they get a job to there then they just drive back out.. it would be pointless for them to have to know all of south Liverpool and Knowsley.

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That's very true but it would have to be Delta's own knowledge test as there are many Sefton drivers who only work in north Sefton and don't come near Liverpool unless they get a job to there then they just drive back out.. it would be pointless for them to have to know all of south Liverpool and Knowsley.


Oh like the banks have self regulation :roll: What a load of poppycock. From day to day a Delta driver has no idea where they are going to be sent or what areas they land in regardless of the fact that a driver has a comfort zone they could be sent anywhere in Sefton and it's surrounding boroughs. It seems to me that you think Delta would like to take the easy option whenever possible to get as many drivers through their doors as they possibly can and it appears to me that you think that's ok. As a driver do you not take any pride in your profession, do you as a driver think it's right to dumb down drivers knowledge tests, is it any wonder that the public look at you and think 'well you're only a taxi driver nothing to it really' and 'what''s your proper job'. Ffs take pride in what you do, it takes a special kind of person to do this job properly any idiot can drive a car

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