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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:16 pm 
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Skull, you've obviously not got a clue what I'm talking about. All you seem to think about is the Taxi Trade


I didn't specifically mention the taxi trade.

Try this: From a very early age, you are taught to apologise, make excuses, give explanations, to ask for permission, and to allow others make your decisions for you and to give away any control you might have. It's simply a part of your social conditioning.

In private schools like Eton and Fettes college, they learn the opposite.

In short, they are taught to lead and you to follow. :-|

It's no accident the way you are Fairplay, you never had a chance. eusasmiles.zip You do no more than you are programmed to do.


So the alternative is to live in Africa :roll: A place where democracy doesn't exsist :roll:

The price of democracy is social regulation, those who choose not to conform normally classify themselves as Losers, you know the type Skull, look in the mirror :roll:

The way we live in our democratic country we have opportunity, i'm happy with what i've got but my brother who had no more educational advantage over me worked harder taking more opportuniies and is now a millionaire and he is still the same brother that i grew up with.

Corruption comes from a human trait called temptation, your mate Jasbar has already stated that our council could have bought him out years ago, have you never given in to Temptation Skull, Have you read the book of Temptaton, right or wrong Tempation exsist's and i believe there arn't many who have never given in to Temptation including you.

You say we are educationally programmed and that is correct, the alternative is known as Disadvantaged, you know the type Skull, cowgate etc :wink: Education is a privalege in our country and it's what makes our democracy work.

I'm happy to conform, if you are not then thats your Human Right, no one forces you :wink:


No Dougie, Africa has nothing to do with it, not even as a bad example. This is one of your medallion moments.

“the price of democracy is social regulation” where do you get this tripe? #-o

When regulation is deliberately used to disadvantage people, it is not democracy, it's a dictatorship. It might well be an elected dictatorship, but it is still a dictatorship, nevertheless.

As for your brother, if he is no more educated than you, it just goes to show education is little to do with instinct, guile or luck. I take my hat off to him for what he has achieved, but that's it. I don't know him, and if he's anything like you Dougie, there is little he could say that would be of any real interest to me.

Now think of a hierarchical system where the educational objective is obedience and compliance and not critical and creative thought. Where schools are like factories and children are programmed. Education, is therefore, a complex series of number crunching, box ticking exercises carried out for those who can readily accept the program. The outcome, a compliant and obedient work force of unquestioning automatons programmed to serve and protect the system.

Let's call it, the more for them, and less for us, system of education.

Now consider an educational system which is truly aspirational. Where critical and creative thought is actively encouraged, and children are treated as individuals with equal chances in life.

You could call this, the more for us, and less for them, system of education.

Which would you prefer?

Oh and Dougie, you did not choose to conform if you were unaware of having a choice, now you are simply a bootlicker. :-|


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:53 pm 
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Now think of a hierarchical system where the educational objective is obedience and compliance and not critical and creative thought. Where schools are like factories and children are programmed. Education, is therefore, a complex series of number crunching, box ticking exercises carried out for those who can readily accept the program. The outcome, a compliant and obedient work force of unquestioning automatons programmed to serve and protect the system.


Total Anarchistic ramblings from a man who is using his right not to conform :roll: If we lived in Iran you'd be carted away a long time ago but we don't, you are free to call politicians whatever you like and without consequence of sort, the more extreme though the more the system will forget you exist :roll:

This thread is about Corruption, you in your ramblings are trying to do just that, corrupt the mind against our democracy, your preachings against the system are educational to the weak minded who fall for a superior, thank god you offer opinion to a small minority a very very small minority, and you yourself fall for jasbars preachings, Skull its a funny triangle you live in but hey you are what you portray the system to be, you are no better than the next man but you have your freedom, you have opportunity, you Can use creativityto better yourself and if its mugs and T-shirts its Mugs and T-shirts :lol: You have the right to express opinion and against the system.

The Question is SKULL :?:





Who Told you, you didn't have a right :?: And you believed them :roll: Just a fool to believe eh :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If yo heard it from voices in your head then quickly get a check up :lol: We wouldn't want to be picking you up from the Royal Ed now would we :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:36 pm 
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is it just me or is Reggie becoming less and less lucid as time goes by :-s

i see the words, but i have no idea what he is saying #-o


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:53 pm 
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is it just me or is Reggie becoming less and less lucid as time goes by :-s

i see the words, but i have no idea what he is saying #-o


I have no idea what he is talking about either. He's completely lost the plot. I answered the various points he introduced into the debate except for “temptation” which I didn't really understand, and it appears. I am an anarchist for wanting everyone to have a proper education with equal opportunities in life.


I must have hit a raw nerve somewhere along the line. It's like he's gone off his head. #-o


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It's like he's gone off his head. #-o


He did that long ago :lol:

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It's like he's gone off his head. #-o


He did that long ago :lol:


He's as mad as a bag of ferrets. ](*,)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:19 pm 
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Dougie, the thread is about corruption. What you fail to realise is the system is a corruption of people lives, to a lesser or greater degree depending on where you are born into the food chain. The educational system is politically contrived to produce obedient workers for business. Not critical thinking creative individuals who might be difficult to control. The last thing they want, is people that know how to question authority, making those in power accountable for their actions.

This is, the more for them and less for us, system of education.

Ali, is correct, democracy in its present form “is just a thin veil pulled over your eyes to make you think you have control.”

The truth is, you, and your chum Fairplay, is as much of a victim of the system as I am, only you pair, don't want to believe it. And you allow your little taxi plate to cloud your judgement.

What we have is a top-down system of control with no real bottom up accountability. You don't really believe this to be an accident, do you Dougie? :shock:


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Skull, you're the one with the "Victim Mentality". I cannae' claim credit for the following quote but it kinda sums you up.

"We slip easily into victim mentality when we we try to get exactly what we want in less than ideal circumstances and when we can't, we allow ourselves to be trapped in no-win choices. Often, we aren't even willing to consider any choice other than the ideal choice. When we are in victim mentality, we don’t see the range of choices we have and we wallow in resentment. We feel helpless".

Why did you stop attending the group meetings ?.


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David Icke, that's who I blame, David bloody Icke !. If the cant had stuck tae' "Snooker" I'm sure Skull would've been awright.
(Watch oot fir' they Reptiles Skull)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:07 pm 
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Skull, you're the one with the "Victim Mentality". I cannae' claim credit for the following quote but it kinda sums you up.

"We slip easily into victim mentality when we we try to get exactly what we want in less than ideal circumstances and when we can't, we allow ourselves to be trapped in no-win choices. Often, we aren't even willing to consider any choice other than the ideal choice. When we are in victim mentality, we don’t see the range of choices we have and we wallow in resentment. We feel helpless".

Why did you stop attending the group meetings ?.



I was once a victim of the system, and in a sense I probably still am, but I refused to remain ignorant, and therefore, a victim. I chose to inform myself, unlike you. You are still a victim in every sense of the word but are so ignorant. You don't even realise.

In a lot of ways I consider myself lucky not to end up like you and Dougie.

One might say, "ignorance is bliss" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Fairplay, have you ever wondered why there is little money for educating the masses but plenty for fighting illegal Wars? Do you really believe it's because a large proportion of children, are stupid and can't be educated to the level of their peers, given the opportunity with the appropriate resources being made available? Perhaps you believe that all children develop and learn at an equal rate and should be taught in the same way?

Here's the bad news, education is little to do with real learning but everything to do with obedience, compliance and control. After all, who would fight the Wars, drive the taxis or work in McDonald's for buttons an hour, while companies make billions of pounds in profit.

You don't have to tell the people at the top what represents their interests, they already know. And it's not educating Niddrie scum like you, to the point you know what represents your interests. Oh and your daft wee plate has little to do with anything.

Think about it, bright boy. ](*,) How can you control the masses if they are no longer ignorant of the fact they are being controlled?

And what's more to the point, where's the profit? :shock: :-|


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David Icke, that's who I blame, David bloody Icke !. If the cant had stuck tae' "Snooker" I'm sure Skull would've been awright.
(Watch oot fir' they Reptiles Skull)


Nowt wrong with a bit David Icke :wink:

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David Icke, that's who I blame, David bloody Icke !. If the cant had stuck tae' "Snooker" I'm sure Skull would've been awright.
(Watch oot fir' they Reptiles Skull)


Nowt wrong with a bit David Icke :wink:


I think you've managed to kill the debate stone dead with that comment Toots. I've never read his books but always wondered about the type of people who do. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Doom, where are you? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:37 pm 
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David Icke, that's who I blame, David bloody Icke !. If the cant had stuck tae' "Snooker" I'm sure Skull would've been awright.
(Watch oot fir' they Reptiles Skull)


Nowt wrong with a bit David Icke :wink:


I think you've managed to kill the debate stone dead with that comment Toots. I've never read his books but always wondered about the type of people who do. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Doom, where are you? :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm here, I'm leaving you alone because I've nothing to argue with you right now, I actually agree with some of what you say, although the David Ike bashing isn't to taste, ok some of his idea's were watching too much Sci Fi Channel, but a lot of his messages are good messages, if there is a god, David will be welcomed in by him when his time comes, in a world of horrible folks, David Ike isn't one of them.

Anyway, I'll only rip my shirt off to you when you deserve it, I've no intent to just sling mud about for the sake of it, now you have a good day Mr Skull and I'm pleased the Valium seems to be working for you, "sometimes" :wink:


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Well, thanks for that Doom, I actually agree with your somewhat measured response. :shock: Yes, taking a pop at David Icke was a cheap shot, but he does tend to go off on one. :wink:


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