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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:57 pm 
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Came across this via TaxiPoint, but this is the verbatim stuff from the survey. There are two different pages, and they look like they largely repeat each other, but I can't really be bothered trying to distil or summarise it all, if only because it's quite technical and requires a careful read...

But it all reeks of skullduggery and black markets etc 8-[

And the trade in Aberdeen is largely similar in structure to Dundee's, thus I know how it works in terms of plates etc [-(

And that was when there was simply a single vehicle spec for HCs in Dundee, and a waiting list, whereas now they've got six different HC plates because of the two different WAV specs, and their EV variations?

At least it looks like there's just a simple saloon or WAV spec, as opposed to the half dozen different specs in Dundee :-o


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We are engaging with the general public and key stakeholders that may be impacted by the mixed taxi fleet.

This feedback will be included in the report to Licensing Committee on 14th May 2025.

It is suggested that a split of 50% Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles (WAVs) and 50% saloon vehicles is established, and that the current policy that all new applications require to be for WAVs is maintained.

It is also suggested that a waiting list for licence holders wishing to change from a WAV to a saloon vehicle is established, and current licence holders who have operated a WAV for at least 5/10 years are offered the first opportunity to register an interest to join the waiting list. This will be done by asking licence holders to email the licensing email address from a certain date and time and the list will be compiled in the order in which the requests are received. No request received before the stipulated time and date will be considered.

Thereafter all remaining current licence holders will be afforded the opportunity to register their interest in joining the list in the same way on a later date. When a saloon plate becomes available the first name on the list will be invited to confirm within 7 days that they remain interested. If they do not do so they will be moved to the bottom of the list and the opportunity will pass to the next name on the list.

If they do confirm that they remain interested they will have 3 months from the date of the original availability to submit an application to substitute a saloon vehicle onto their licence. If this is not done they will be moved to the bottom of the list and the opportunity offered to the next name on the list.

Mixed Taxi Fleet

Establish a split of 50% Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles (WAVs) and 50% saloon vehicles.

Maintain the current policy that all new applications require to be for WAVs.

Establish a waiting list for licence holders wishing to change from a WAV to a saloon vehicle.

Provide current licence holders who have operated a WAV for at least 5/10 years the first opportunity to register an interest to join the waiting list. This will be done by asking licence holders to email the licensing email address from a certain date and time and the list will be compiled in the order in which the requests are received. No request received before the stipulated time and date will be considered.

Thereafter all remaining current licence holders will be afforded the opportunity to register their interest in joining the list in the same way on a later date.

When a saloon plate becomes available the first name on the list will be invited to confirm within 7 days that they remain interested. If they do not do so they will be moved to the bottom of the list and the opportunity will pass to the next name on the list.

If they do confirm that they remain interested they will have 3 months from the date of the original availability to submit an application to substitute a saloon vehicle onto their licence. Again, if this is not done they will be moved to the bottom of the list and the opportunity offered to the next name on the list.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:57 pm 
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Anyway, this is the survey page, and it's possible to view all the questions without filling them in - I got to the end and was informed that:

"You didn't answer any questions..." :lol:

https://taxisurvey.commonplace.is/


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:07 pm 
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We must have gone nearly a fortnight without another Aberdeen story :roll:

except they are nearly always the same unresolved issues !

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:49 pm 
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To be fair, it was only in 1994 that the council committed to a 100% WAV fleet. So give them time - I'm sure they'll get there eventually :lol:

And at least they recommitted to that in 2012, and pledged then that it would happen by 2017, so at least they were making progress :oops:

But somewhere along the line they've obviously changed their mind and decided to retain a mixed fleet :-o

So more than 30 years after their original pronouncement on the issue, they're still trying to get it sorted out :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:40 pm 
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What a mess.

In days gone long I would have said every cab should be a WAV, rather than have some owners able to license saloons and others mandated to WAVs.

Now, with the crazy prices of WAVs, I believe it should be down to every owner whether they want to license a saloon or a WAV.

Two-tier hackney licensing should be a thing of the past.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:56 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
What a mess.

Is it? :?: :?:

To be honest, I barely even skimmed it, but immediately noticed lots of words about stuff that drove me nuts more than 25 years ago, so couldn't even summon up the effort to read it properly :-o

Largely agree about the other stuff, though. And what I've always said - but which seems to be such a difficult thing for councillors et al to get their heads round - is that the bottom line should be a level playing field [-(

And no-one in the trade should be compelled to run any type of vehicle than any others aren't compelled to run :idea:

But, of course, that comes back to the age-old conumdrum - who runs the WAVs, and who runs the saloons?

And, particularly as you say regarding the cost thing these days, if the choice was with drivers then probably very few, if any, would run the WAVs. And was ever thus anyway, even when prices between saloons and WAVs were not quite so far apart :?


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