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Our night drivers have great difficulty having a 'one to one' with a licensing enforcement officer, for obvious reasons. So, when one makes an appearance on our streets in the early hours of the morning, our radio operator likes to advertise their presence to the whole fleet, with, for example;"Anyone needing to talk to Mr. xxxxxx, he can be found in the main street at the moment." Now, our licensing department have got wind of this message being broadcast, and are saying, if we continue to advertise their presence, we could be charged with,"perverting the course of justice." How they can suggest this, without any evidence that a crime has been committed to get justice for?????????????? is beyond me. Anyone feel like me, that the lunatics are running the asylum?

I feel you radio room is well out of order, and if it keeps carrying on I would hope you lose your operator's license.

'Fit and proper' you're having a laugh.

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IDFIMH

I'm amazed you think the radio room are at fault. What offence do you think they are committing? If prince Charles was having a walkabout around our town centre, are we not allowed to tell our driver's where he is at any particular moment? Or have our enforcement officers been granted more privileges than Prince Charles?

They are warning drivers that the enforcement team is out, thus allowing drivers with something to hide to go and hide.

Shameful action I'm afraid.

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IDFIMH

Sorry Sussex cannot agree with you this time,you keep telling them they are about even if they aint keeps them on there toes

I don't have any problem with warnings going out when they are not out, as that sends iffy drivers home and increases the income for the rest. However messages going out telling drivers when the enforcement team is out, when they are, is wrong.

Many areas don't have much enforcement, so we shouldn't be pi**ing LOs off when they do. Do we want rid of the scum or not?

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IDFIMH

Well I'm going to back you 100% this time, when you tip off you tip off someones brothers cousin driving illegally as well.

I had a chat with our LO recently, and he told me that there aren't many British names on the registry now and by the time he retires, which isn't that many moons away he doesn't expect there to be any, I guess we all know how the builders felt 5 years ago now don't we, same folks who put them out of work are now doing it to us.

Well I am totally baffled, no shocked
Poor Gazntan and his chums are having problems finding a LO to talk to on a one to one basis, that is just terrible, I will happily contribute towards a whip round so the Council can have a phone installed in their office. Shame on Cheshire West and Chester Council for not having one. But hang on... put your money back in your pockets lads, I have had a better idea...
This was posted by Gazntan on this very forum, Sunday June 12th....

"We have a situation in our area, where the licensing enforcement officers are all over the private hire trade with a fine tooth comb, but leave the hacks to their own devices. We've recently had 2 P.H. cars lifted and taken to the pound, and both drivers incurred costs and fines of approx. £1000, and 6 driving license penalty points, both of them guilty of taking an 'unbooked' fare worth less than £10."

Well it would seem Gazntan does get to chit chat to the LOs because they are all over him with a fine tooth comb, lets hope they bleach the comb afterwards.
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Jeffs spy

I'm sorry 'King of cabs', but if you read my posting in June properly, you would see that night workers weren't mentioned at all, so where are the 'fibs' you refer to? If you work all night and sleep all day, when can you realistically chew the fat with a L.O? As it happens, when I said, back in June, that they were all over us, at that time, they were carrying out joint police/licensing enforcement operations, where they were swooping in on loaded vehicles, removing the passengers to the police cars, and leaving the L.O. to talk to the driver. This is hardly the most appropriate time for a driver to have a 'chit chat' (your words) with the L.O. about possible new legislation, for example, that may or may not affect our trade????? As for picking up a phone, it's now generally accepted, in Cheshire West, you will either hear an answering machine, or an admin lady, who promises to pass your message on. Anyway, whether you think it is moral or not to inform the drivers that the L.O's are on the plot, the main point of my posting, was to hear your views on the fact that the L.O's said the operators were liable to be charged with 'perverting the course of justice' if the ops. continued to advertise their presence on the plot, even though, they had NO evidence that a crime may or may not have been about to be committed? NONE of you has picked up on this, you've all concentrated on the radio broadcasts, rather than the nonsense, that is the threatened potential charge.

I can't believe you need to advertise that the LEOs are out.

In Brum, as soon as the first driver is approached by an LEO, or enforcement team the whole of the trade know within a few minutes; that's HC and PH.

And the radio operators usually dispatch messages onto screens advising drivers to wear their badges, as many drivers often forget to put them on.

"Drivers! Don't forget to wear your badges and make sure you have a clean copy of your bye-laws with you at all times, especially on Broad Street, in Sutton town centre and in the Arcadian area. Any driver that fails to comply will be summoned by the disiplinary committee and/or board of management and may be sanctioned. Thank you drivers."

Taxi circuits do have a 'duty of care' to make sure that all their drivers are fully compliant as it shows up badly on their business if they are not.

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So gazntan

Are you saying that it is ok for your radio operator to broadcast the exact whereabouts of the Licensing Officers everytime they show up in town ??

Can you not see the implications of this - anyone who has a dodgy motor, picking up illegally etc etc......... can adjust his behaviour to avoid coming under the scrutiny of the Licensing Officers. Not only does this compromise public safety but it also accommodates the unscrupulous driver who can bend the rules with impunity.

This in turn leaves the honest hard working drivers out on the streets with nothing to hide to take the flak whilst at the same time skewing the figures and statistics that the Licensing Officers take back to the office.

Face facts Gary the messages put out over the Data heads were not as you say so drivers can "chat" to the LO`s they were so they can stop any illegal behavior such as Illegally Plying for hire whilst they are in the area.

You are just upset that you have been caught.

As for evidence of this - I have some if you want some.

Well said Hacked off, he wants us all to believe that he needs a discussion forum with the council outside the kebab shop at 2am in the rain surrounded by drunks. Perhaps the Council wont ring you back because they are sick of hearing your Bulls**t, read your terms and conditions and get on with the job and stop moaning. People on here are in the taxi business so they are not buying it, do you think the forum members are all idiots? If you want to work the street buy a black cab, pay the money like everybody else has to.

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Jeffs spy

Thats the whole point here the Licensing Officers are trying to do their job and are being impeded by the distribution of these messages.

So gazntan

Could you please explain to me and everyone else on here how exactly the distribution of a message like this helps your members to find the location of a Licensing Officer to have a "one to one" with.

Maybe they all have fetishes for Police Officers..........



It seems that indeed the lunatics have indeed taken over the Asylum if you expect people to believe that the broadcasting of messages like this is innocent.

You have been banged to rights.

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I'd also like to add to this, the guy says the LO is all over them with a fine tooth comb and that cars were impounded and it cost money to get them back.

Well Sherlock doesn't that say they had defects and weren't safe?

And as for the fine for plying for a job that only rewarded £10, that's what you get for thinking you are a txi driver when you aren't, or should we start directing the punters towards you and go hungry ourselves?

Thank you so much for highlighting something I've been saying for ages, PH thinks it's entitled to everything and when it gets caught out it screams loudest, oh and thx for ruining a job I've done without much issue or hassle for 25 years, let me show you the future, thx to overcharging and not going the correct route people are not bothering to go out anymore, this is going to amplify soon and even those that do go out won't be taking a cab, cheers for nothing.

Whilst I don't agree that drivers should be warned if the LO is out and about I don't think it's fair to tar us all with the same brush and have you polished that halo of yours today I'm more inclined to think that BOTH sides of the trade have a bad element in them

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