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We should remember how much of what we pay at the pumps actually goes to the government.

We should also remember that petrol and diesel doesn't come out of the ground ............ but the "crude oil" that does is used for many other things, in fact, I seem to remember hearing that road fuels are actually more of a by-product and constitute only a small percentage of the profit from each barrel worth.

Then understand that around 60% of the fuel cost is DUTY, so if the fuel companies are making millions how much is the government making.

What I would propose as a more productive exercise is a two pronged attack -

Phaze 1 - boycott ALL BP and Esso petrol stations .................. they will then have to offer incentives on their prices to sell, and then when the price drops at the pumps to under 90p then ONLY use BP and Esso stations until the price drops to under 85p

Phaze 2 - promise to vote for the political party which promises to half fuel duty immediatley following the election ................. if phaze 1 achieves the objectives they will know that the will of the people will bring them to power.

Only my opinion, but a mixture of some schemes floating around the www at the moment.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

You'd only need to blockade the London Bridges.

GA it actually 85% you forgot the VAT

I'm always forgetting about VAT

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Meanwhile, back in the real world no party will make such a proposal, and even if they did then they'd renege on it when in office.

Realisitically, the most that could probably be hoped for is the abandonment of the proposed rise in duty - tuppence a litre, isn't it?

Realistically ..................... the price will rise unless we do something as a Nation.

But with people so willing to rubbish others ideas without proposing an alternative we will definatley see fuel prices rising well over the £1.50 per litre mark and beyond.

The most that could be hoped for is abolishion of fuel duty .............. the least that can be hoped for is the abandonment of the iminant rise in duty.

Defeatists are cowards .................... the people should hold the power ................. we elect these people and they know it ...................... they keep taking the pi$$ because they know that people like Fae Fife will just accept what they do and re-elect them .................. its time for the public to show their strength because if we don't we are finished.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

So what party is proposing the abolition of fuel duty?

So what tax do you propose to increase to make up for the lost revenue?

What would you do about the world oil markets which are causing the current increases?

The reason people ignore nonsense like your proposal to scrap fuel duty is that they know that at the end of the day they and governments have to live in the real world, and that even if a government did scrap it then they would have to raise the revenue elsewhere, so the nation as a whole would be no better off.

I used to be an unrealistic idealisit like you GA, but I gave up on that because no one else would join in.

So my advice to you is to get real and put forward realistic solutions instead of stuff that you know fine is a non-starter.

That, and stopping calling people who disagree with you cowards, and people might start taking you seriously

BTW GA, it's hardly the first time it's happened - remember the oil price shocks in the 70s which created havoc with the world economies?

BTW I've haven't voted for any mainstream party for many years, so please don't accuse me of "re-electing" any of them.

But if you start your own Abolish Fuel Duty Party then I'll vote for you, if only because then you can stop calling me a defeatist

Weren't they caused by lack of global production?
The Saudis this week said production is keeping pace with demand and there is no shortage. So WTF is going on?

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None, and to be honest none ever will.



Firstly I haven't proposed the duty on fuel should be removed, I've just suggested that IF we were going to set targets that should be the ultimate target at the commencement of negotiations.

Secondly, this government gives millions of pounds each year in aid, now I'm not heartless but when wor lass is watching American Idol and I see Gordon Brown pledging (on our behalf) £2m, my pi$$ starts to boil.



Are they really .......................... I would like to see some evidence ............................ but to couter your suggestion Phaze 1 of my proposal will correct our market pricing if even the majority boycott our two biggest suppliers.



Is it not a cowardly act not to fight back when someone or something is exploiting you out of existance?

Have you not been inundated with emails calling for action on the price of our fuel?

Have you ever heard of the word BRAINSTORMING?

I also did say that these were only my opinions, based on some of the shemes being banded about at the moment ...................... you chose to criticise my "proposals" rather than debate with your own ideas.

The problem is that we British do not complain, stiff upper lip and all that, the government know this and continually introduce stuff that fooks us over without consultation or referendum ...................... well fook that.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Sometimes... a silent protest can be quite effective ............. a sign in the back windscreen reading something like..... we have had enough Mr Brown .. stop ripping the motorist off .. reduce fuel taxes..???? you never know, it could be the silent voice of the majority.

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Don't really know, but I think it's more of a demand problem (India, China etc.) this time rather than a supply constraint.

But the Saudi statement is nonsense, because one of the reasons that supply is keeping up with demand is because the price has risen.

About as sensible as the council doubling taxi fares because people were having a problem getting a taxi and then saying to the public that there's no problem with the number of taxis operating - that's because no one would be using them because of the increased fares!!

Well if we're not being exploited by fuel tax duty then what tax would you prefer us to be exploited by?



No.



Yes.



TBH it's not an issue that I'm that well up on Mr GA, and I'm doing some stuff on a couple of local/taxi issues at the moment, but the two schemes that you mentioned don't really seem realistically acheivable without creating a problem elsewhere.



I think the problem is that despite what's going on most British people know that they're relatively well off and they look at places like China and Burma and know that even if the price of fuel is rocketing things aren't really that bad for them, and they know that realisticlly if fuel duty was abolished then they'd just be paying more in other taxes, so they don't seek radical change, and that's why no political party proposes anything too radical, and the minor parties that do get nowhere.

And on a personal basis, although I haven't gotten round to manning the barricades yet I do a lot more than most, but get nowhere, possibly because it's not mainstream politics.

i caught the tail end of a news report today saying aberdeen fisherman are to be compensated for fuell, the figure was £750.000 i cant find anything on the net about it

What both of them?

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