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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:06 am 
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Did you know that some EU countries give tax concessions to cab drivers in the way of fuel tax duty and VAT exemptions on vehicle purchases? The UK is not one of those countries. lol

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 Post subject: Re: EU tax concessions
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JD wrote:
Did you know that some EU countries give tax concessions to cab drivers in the way of fuel tax duty and VAT exemptions on vehicle purchases? The UK is not one of those countries. lol

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Could you provide a list of those that give concessions JD :?:


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skippy41 wrote:
JD wrote:
Did you know that some EU countries give tax concessions to cab drivers in the way of fuel tax duty and VAT exemptions on vehicle purchases? The UK is not one of those countries. lol

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Could you provide a list of those that give concessions JD :?:


Of course.

Later today.

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Why not now? lol

EUROPEAN CONFERENCE OF MINISTERS OF TRANSPORT (ECMT)

3.4 Financial benefits

The majority of the countries responding to the survey have regulations that offer some measure of financial benefit to the purchasers of taxi vehicles. Seven countries (Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, Portugal and Spain) allow reductions in VAT or purchase taxes. The reductions can be significant. Finland allows a reduction of up to 57 000FIM on the purchase of a new car, with taxi vehicles designed for use by disabled people totally exempt from taxes. Spanish allowances (IVA and IM) amount to a saving of 23% on the vehicle purchase price. Danish purchasers of taxis also obtain substantial reductions in the duty levied on new cars. In discussions with a taxi operator in Copenhagen it was said that this reduction means that after three years use as a taxi, the car can then be sold on for private use at about the same price as was paid for it when it was bought new.

In France there are some lesser financial benefits available relating to the use of vehicles for private purposes, freedom from tax that would be paid on resale of a taxi (provided the taxi operator’s turnover is less than 300 000 FF) and, for paid drivers who are responsible for buying fuel, refunds of the tax on petroleum products up to prescribed limits. Quebec also provides for reimbursement of taxes on fuel ($500). Only four countries, Belgium, Hungary, Romania and the UK, have no allowances on either vehicle purchase costs or on fuel.

It was noted in the French studies that the Ile-de-France region has made subsidies available since 1991 towards the capital costs of modifying taxis to meet the needs of disabled passengers. The subsidy covers 50% of the costs up to a maximum of 100 000 FF if the taxi is fitted with a lift (at the rear) or up to 20 000 FF if it is equipped with swivel seats. The (modified) vehicles should be used by an association that has an agreement with a local collective. This requirement explains the scant recourse made to this form of subsidy.
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This needs sorted get it into the papers, and contact anybody else with clout


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skippy41 wrote:
This needs sorted get it into the papers, and contact anybody else with clout


You have a point.

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JD wrote:
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This needs sorted get it into the papers, and contact anybody else with clout


You have a point.

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Start with the BBC and ITV and SKY news.

UK taxi drivers fuming at having no concessions like our European neighbours


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The press is just a portal to the British people, and nothing will happen unless we get the sympathy of the general public and they wont get sypmathetic until they think some of the Fuel subsidy might just rub off on them by way of cheaper fares.


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I understand the NTA have approached government regarding fuel costs.

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I understand the NTA have approached government regarding fuel costs.

Would have thought the amount of NTA hot air about would fuel many a cab. :D

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thats what I love about the EU...We have do what the EU says because we are all good Europeans and a Fairness between EU members has to be observed, that is except for Britain who Pays most and gets least. its time to rid ourselves of the EU shackles that do nothing more than tether us to a dying behemoth.

The whole thing reeks of hypocrisy!!!


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Dear Minister

National Taxi Association

We act for the National Taxi Association of which the writer is the Secretary.

We do not have to rehearse too much, we think, the problems that are arising from the rise in fuel prices which are afflicting the global economy.

The effects are particularly daunting for the taxi trade who are finding themselves having to work longer and longer hours to make the money that they need to break even.

It has been said, and it probably began with John Prescott on an official basis, that the taxi trade comprise an essential component of the integrated transport network. That is undoubtedly true and has been confirmed by successive Transport Ministers who have addressed the Association at their annual conferences over the years. However, it would have to be said that taxis have never enjoyed anything like the same sort of concessions that have been enjoyed eg by buses when it comes to fuel rebates etc.

It is not feasible to pass on all of the additional costs to the public. It will create a situation where what trade remains is going to be impaired considerably because our members are being “priced out of the market”.

The only alternative to passing the cost on to the customer is to seek some sort of concession from the Government, perhaps along the lines of the concessions that have been enjoyed by buses and which are certainly still enjoyed, as we understand it, by those running staged bus operations.

It seems to us that there are three possibilities, there may be more:

1. A rebate of fuel tax is allowed to the taxi trade either on a total or partial basis. This would do much to circumvent the problems that presently exist.

2. There be a concession in relation to the payment of road tax. The road taxes paid by some taxis are high largely because of the fact that they are necessarily larger vehicles and create a higher level of CO2 emissions. The manufacturers continue at all times to work towards obviating this.

3. Taxi drivers be allowed to use the red diesel that is permitted for e.g. farmers.

It is unlikely, we appreciate, that the Government could make concessions in relation to all three of these matters but it is very much hoped that the Government would consider assisting with some of them or in some other way.

The situation, within the taxi trade, has become really quite drastic. It is important therefore that the matter is addressed as soon as ever possible and we look forward to hearing from you in that regard. Should it assist we will be happy to provide any further information that you may require.

It is not lost on us that you are a former Minister of Transport who may well understand our clients’ predicament.

Yours sincerely


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Given that here in London we have little choice (the TX4 or,until two weeks ago,the Merc) with both vehicles expensive to buy not not economical to run,we need help.
A fuel subsidy/rebate,free licensing (both driver and vehicle) or VAT free vehicle are a few ideas to put in the pot.

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captain cab wrote:
3. Taxi drivers be allowed to use the red diesel that is permitted for e.g. farmers.

I think that's the way forward.

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