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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:06 pm 
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Is it just me, or is this one group of councillors seeing if they can [edited by admin] up the wall higher than another group of the same... a good laugh and all that . . . . :roll:


Pound to a pinch of sh*t they won't be paying the legal bills!!

I just wonder if the lawyer & barrister fees for this lot will come out of the HC & PH licensing budget at both councils.

Berwick & Newcastle vehicle licensing fees next year could be over a grand a time, & driver licence fees won't be far behind.

Three days in court, loads of lawyers & barristers on both sides; sounds like fees of over £1,000,000 to me.

Someone has to pay for it, & it will probably be the PH & HC lads in Newcastle & Berwick.


As Berwick ceases to exist as a local authority and therefore licensing authority from early 2009 ...................... I doubt very much that their fees will go up.

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Won't any legal bills just be inherited by any new authority? and passed on through the fees of it's licenced trade?


My point was that Berwick won't exist next year ......... and the increase of numbers recently will probably cover their costs.
Newcastle are probably one of the most expensive authorities who are having their licensing account questioned .................. and the revenue they will get when all the lads who previously had their vehicles licensed in Newcastle re-licence them in Newcastle will probably do the same.

I think that people are listening to the chinese whispers instead of seeking the real truth.

This case or should I say the result of this case will surprise a few people.

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My point was that Berwick won't exist next year ......D



Not if I get a day off and suddenly devolop Einstien type caperbilities in my shed they wont :wink:

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Day 1. 8)

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This case or should I say the result of this case will surprise a few people.

Well I'm never surprised, but tell us which way those people are going to be surprised, and why?

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Taxis row goes to High Court

http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2008/09/17/taxis-row-goes-to-high-court-61634-21834465/

HUNDREDS of taxis licensed in Berwick are swarming out of the town to ply their trade throughout the North East, and even as far afield as Surrey, a top judge has heard.

At London’s High Court yesterday Newcastle City Council claimed the Northumberland town now has a staggering 672 licensed hackney carriages – more than one for every 40 residents – and that the local council’s stance on taxi licensing is causing havoc.

The vast majority of the licences they issue are for taxis which are never used on the town’s streets, but instead form part of the minicab fleet in Newcastle and elsewhere.

The addresses of Berwick-licensed taxi proprietors take in areas across the North East but some live as far afield as the West Midlands, Wales, Liverpool and even Surrey, said Mr John McGuinness QC, the barrister for Newcastle City Council.

Newcastle wrote to Berwick Borough Council in May last year, demanding a change in its stance on taxi licensing, but the application was rejected. And yesterday Mr McGuinness argued Berwick Council was “well aware” that large numbers of their taxis are engaged in the private hire trade in Newcastle, where they are not subject to the city council’s fare pricing rules or enforcement and regulatory regime.

He told the judge that, in April 2006, Berwick had just 46 licensed hackney carriages, but numbers had since “grown exponentially”.

And it was also claimed taxi licence applicants in Berwick “have not the slightest intention” of operating in the town and that the borough council was “expressly thwarting” Parliament’s wish that hackney carriage services should be local in nature and serve local populations.

Mr McGuinness said that Newcastle only grants new taxi licences where there is significant unmet demand for cabs in the city – but Berwick operates no equivalent policy.

Newcastle is asking Judge Symons to rule Berwick’s stance unlawful and make a formal declaration that the town must only issue licences to cab proprietors if is satisfied that their vehicles will be used within Berwick, or its environs.

However, Berwick is staunchly resisting Newcastle’s challenge, insisting it is perfectly entitled to grant hackney carriage licences to any would-be taxi proprietor, so long as both they and their vehicles are considered “fit”.

The borough council’s lawyers insist the way it deals with taxi licence applications does not amount to “a policy” and is no different from other local authorities – including Newcastle.

The High Court hearing, expected to last up to three days, continues.

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decision defered for 7 days.

Hmmmmmm


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decision defered for 7 days.

Hmmmmmm


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Decision will be announced in 3-7 days. My guess is that Newcastle will win, but that there will be a period of 12 months from the judgement for all plateholders working out of their borough to get back to their own borough.

That is my guess/prediction anyway........ 8)

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But will this be the end of Hackney's and private hire working on the same radio system??... :oops:

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But will this be the end of Hackney's and private hire working on the same radio system??... :oops:


No. I think!

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But will this be the end of Hackney's and private hire working on the same radio system??... :oops:


No. I think!
Are you quite sure :wink:

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It doesn't really matter which way the case goes... more will need to be done at the higher level.... :oops:

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No, that's why I said 'I think'!

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Decision will be announced in 3-7 days.

If it's that quick then I will be very surprised, nay shocked, if the decision goes against the Berwick/Gladen status quo.

Especially as the Gladen judge is in effect the current deputy judge's boss. :roll: :roll:

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Decision will be announced in 3-7 days.

If it's that quick then I will be very surprised, nay shocked, if the decision goes against the Berwick/Gladen status quo.

Especially as the Gladen judge is in effect the current deputy judge's boss. :roll: :roll:


I think the whole things been a screw up from the start.

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