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I think we can safely say it is more than just this.
If it were, these guys should be back on the road by now.

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Agree with you there gusmac...........the words "straws and clutching" spring to mind with that.

I'm not a mechanic so i may be missing something with the info they sent out but even if the fuel is leaking out of an overtightened drain valve, wouldn't it still need an ignition source to spark up the diesel which i understand isn't as flammable as petrol ? Would the heat of the engine alone be enough to ignite any leaked fuel ?

Plenty of head scratching to be done on this one..............i still have a feeling they know more than they are letting on; something that they realised in production with the first batch of cabs but quickly rectifed with the subsequent releases!! But i guess conspiracy theories ain't gonna help anyone

I did actually state that the announcement from the PCO confirming that LTI had stated the vehicle was not fit purpose, would **probably** suffice. However I highlighted the added insurance policy of written confirmation clarifying what was asked and what was answered?

Most if not all of us have at sometime had cause to take goods back because they were not fit for purpose. This does not mean that the whole line of goods "were not fit for purpose"? Therefore the rule of thumb is that "not fit for purpose" applies to any goods that fail to meet the purpose for which they were designed?

There are two factors invloved in this particular scenario which are those owners who have actual cause for compensation because they have been affected by the production quality of the vehicle leading to malfunction and those who have not **yet** been affected but might be in the future?

This is where the admission of LTI that the line of vehicles affected are not fit for purpose is paramount. The reason being is that unlike an isolated individual case such as was the case with bex they have declared the whole range is "not fit for purpose".

That statement is a damming decleration and one which if true could cost LTI millions. That is why written confirmation is a must if any joint legal action is to proceed on the basis of the LTI statement.

As you quite rightly say sound advice so pursue it to its natural conclusion by getting the evidence in writting, after all its only a 30p stamp away.

Regards

JD

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BLAME GAME LATEST.

Whilst drivers of 56 reg TX4s have been unable to work this weekend,LTI/PCO have been hard at it.Not solving the problem but working out an exit strategy and who to blame for this fiasco.

And the unlucky winner is :- SGS (round of applause).

SGS are the company who took over the testing of taxis from the PCO.This was never popular with the PCO as they were doing their work..
They are also unpopular with the union (and other traditionalists) as the union lost an important power base.The LTDA,whilst sceptical at first,have warmed to them.
Also SGS are ideal scapegoats because:-
The PCO,who where against (regardless what they say in public) privatising the testing of taxis, are in the clear and this will reinforce the need to either a return to Penton Street or a greater PCO (more jobs) presence at SGS testing stations.
LTI will have to accept some blame,as it is they vehicle but this can be passed onto the engine manufacturers VM.

The trade.
By playing this card it will divide the trade between the traditionalists (union, the ''we've always done it this way'' folk) and the modernists (LTDA,LCDC) who want to move the trade forward.
Drivers and garages will carry some blame for not servicing to the exact PCO requirements. In all a fine example of divide and rule.

So what will happen to drivers of 56 reg TX4s?
They will be offered a lousy compensation package which the LTDA and union will accept and claim victory for their members.Drivers who have started their own litigation will be told the compensation package will pre-empt any case and if you want more you'll have to wait and sweat.

The final problem is how does this explain the TX4s going up in smoke outside London.The PCO will say (not directly) that if these licensing authority standards where the same as the PCO's these incidents would never have happened.

I've tried to start a book at Paddy Power ( http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=go ... y=SPECIALS )but they think I'm mad.
Shows how much they know about the cab trade - maybe they should take over from the PCO?

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Here are the temperatures that diesel can ignite.

"Diesel:
Flash point > 62°C
Autoignition temperature: 210°C

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Grandad,

Considering the fault has not been fully diagnosed how can the PCO claim they would have been better placed to uncover the problem themselves, when they can't even uncover the problem now that it has manifested itself?

If the PCO are that good perhaps they can tell us exactly what the problem is?

Regards

JD

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In the meantime, owners cannot work, unless they rent, But what can they rent???? is there enough cabs in the country to allow them to do this, and who is going to pay the rent???
As Mercedes is the only other manufacturer that has PCO approval in London, and there has not been enough made as yet, it would be best if the turning circle rule was scraped.
This would greatly increase the number of cabs available to owners affected by this.
What happens if the rest of the Shiite hits the fan and ALL TX4s are stopped

They won't scrap the turning circle requirement now. Mercedes have shown that it can be done so therfore ALL manufacturers can do it.

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Grandad,

Your a card grandad, don't give up the day job.
How are owners supposed to get one??? there are not enough made to cope with the demand.
There wont even be enough older ones to rent.
The only way forward is the scraping of the turning circle
How many TX4s have been registered??? to date and if the problem cannot be rectified they will all have to come off, they should all be off now not just the 56 plates

The fact that they can't build them fast enough is irrelivent. Both LTI and Merc can do it so the PCO will not scrap the requirement.

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Grandad,

Skippy is right -They probably should.
Grandad is also right- They probably won't.
Capt Taxi is also right - LTI and the PCO will be looking for every opportunity to pass the buck.

They are all going to look bad if a tragedy occurs, especially if it occurs on a TX4 that isn't a 56 plate.

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Grandad, remember when the Muppets in York council suddenly decided that all cabs must be black, did you notice how hard it was to find one at the drop of a hat ,without resorting to a respray
other manufacturers may be able to do it but it would take time to get things changed on the production line
Any person considering buying a TX4 should seriously think again

Shouldn't these vehicles have their licences suspended everywhere as a matter of urgency, not just London and Edinburgh?

Has any other Authority taken action yet?

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The PCO are contacting every council in the UK I just hope the councils listen

We can't be sure if any of the affected cabs are licenced in Aberdeen. If there are, there won't be many. All Knight emailed Aberdeen council yesterday but as it's a holiday weekend here, I don't suppose anyone will see it until tomorrow.

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