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Thanks for posting that Mr Sussex; it saved me looking it up.

That's for Hackney Carriages & perfectly sensible & practiced by some LAs; Leeds is one I think.

But in Barmy Brum the proposal is for a distinctive colour scheme for PHVs. Yet somewhere in the same LG(MP) Act 1976, does it not say that PHVs should not be of a distinctive design or colour scheme, (so as not to be confused with Hackneys).

And is there any case law on this subject of PHV colour coding, both for & agin that you or anyone knows of?

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Section 48 states;

Licensing of private hire vehicles.— (1) Subject to the provisions of this Part of this Act, a district council may on the receipt of an application from the proprietor of any vehicle for the grant in respect of such vehicle of a licence to use the vehicle as a private hire vehicle, grant in respect thereof a vehicle licence:

Provided that a district council shall not grant such a licence unless they are satisfied—

(a)that the vehicle is—

(i) suitable in type, size and design for use as a private hire vehicle;

(ii) not of such design and appearance as to lead any person to believe that the vehicle is a hackney carriage;

(iii) in a suitable mechanical condition;

(iv) safe; and

(v) comfortable;

(b)that there is in force in relation to the use of the vehicle a policy of insurance or such security as complies with the requirements of [F1 Part VI of the Road Traffic Act 1988], and shall not refuse such a licence for the purpose of limiting the number of vehicles in respect of which such licences are granted by the council.

(2) A district council may attach to the grant of a licence under this section such conditions as they may consider reasonably necessary including, without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing provisions of this subsection, conditions requiring or prohibiting the display of signs on or from the vehicle to which the licence relates.

(3) In every vehicle licence granted under this section there shall be specified—

(a)the name and address of—

(i) the applicant; and

(ii) every other person who is a proprietor of the private hire vehicle in respect of which the licence is granted, or who is concerned, either solely or in partnership with any other person, in the keeping, employing or letting on hire of the private hire vehicle;

(b)the number of the licence which shall correspond with the number to be painted or marked on the plate or disc to be exhibited on the private hire vehicle in accordance with subsection (6) of this section;

(c)the conditions attached to the grant of the licence; and
(d)such other particulars as the district council consider reasonably necessary.

(4) Every licence granted under this section shall—

(a)be signed by an authorised officer of the council which granted it;

(b)relate to not more than one private hire vehicle; and

(c)remain in force for such period not being longer than one year as the district council may specify in the licence.

(5) Where a district council grant under this section a vehicle licence in respect of a private hire vehicle they shall issue a plate or disc identifying that vehicle as a private hire vehicle in respect of which a vehicle licence has been granted.

(6) (a) Subject to the provisions of this Part of this Act, no person shall use or permit to be used in a controlled district as a private hire vehicle in respect of which a licence has been granted under this section unless the plate or disc issued in accordance with subsection (5) of this section is exhibited on the vehicle in such manner as the district council shall prescribe by condition attached to the grant of the licence.

(b)If any person without reasonable excuse contravenes the provisions of this subsection he shall be guilty of an offence.

(7) Any person aggrieved by the refusal of a district council to grant a vehicle licence under this section, or by any conditions specified in such a licence, may appeal to a magistrates’ court.

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Thanks for that Captain, & I do mean THANKS!!

Time is a premium for me at the moment, so I do appreciate your post, as it saved me looking up what I knew was there, somewhere.

Again thanks.

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The Button book states that some local authorities use 48 (2) to put liveries on PHV's.

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I've always thought that some of Button's rhetoric is somewhat strange!!

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here hackney (non-purpose built) must be white, purpose built can be any colour

on the rank - white white green red black white black red black

der, how is that "distinguishing"

PH - "any colour OTHER than white"

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That maybe the case, and I suppose what he means by liveries, but the book states some LA's use this section to fit liveries on PHV's.

BTW, I think the GMB guy is dropping heavy coughing noises, I know its the cold and flu season, but perhaps he wants to tell you he has 22 MP's and lots of councillors. Perhaps he's suggesting if you get a bundle of your troops together and join the GMB he'll fix it for you?

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There are, what appears to be, three issues in Barmy Brum with regard to distinctive colour schemes for PHVs.

The first is the obvious one about looking like Hackneys.

Then there are the ALLEGED other two; double use of the vehicle by a licensed driver at the weekends & an unlicensed family member during the week & ALSO the recognizablility of a colour coded PHV when the licensed driver ALLEGEDLY visits the dole/benefit office.

Talk about a Rock & a Hard Place!

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BC, your so out of date


no-one has to visit the dole office now

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Well they should do!!

Walkies for your FREE MONEY!!

That's what I think; get the stabbards out of bed & down the dole office regularly.

That's why we've lost all the work from that lot then; they used to be one of our best customer bases!!

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Is there a colour policy in place for Hackney Carriages?

CC

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bitter

very bitter

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I prefer real ale myself.

Joking apart, I have first hand experience with a family member on the -in-laws side that has not worked for 25 years & is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT at living on the state.

Briefly, at the age of 21-23 she was getting 95-97% in all her nursing exams, so she has a quite extraordinary brain.

Then 'tried' to commit suicide by overdose of painkillers, BUT having had extensive nursing training KNEW how much to take & how soon she should have her stomach pumped to not have any lasting effects.

Subsequently diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder.

After one of these 'suicide' attempt the wife & other sister went to her house to collect clothes for her stay in hospital (for observation).

Low & behold, what do you think they found in her home?

There on the ironing board was an opened book ....... on how to claim benefits, & stay at home not working all your life.

I'm not saying there are ill & deserving people out there that should be on benefit, because they just cannot work.

But there are hundreds of thousands that just 'extract the urine' & claim benefits as a way of life.

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no, that would be racist

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The colour policy in Barmy Brum for Hackneys is ....... wait for it!

Any manufacturer's colour for LTI & Metrocab vehicles, BUT BLACK ONLY FOR EUROCABS!

Good ain't it.

But they are trying to bring in a distinctive colour for PHVs!

Good ain't it!!

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