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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:55 am 
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JD wrote:
LTI shares are down to a 52 week low of 2.69.

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2.66 too much


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lti dont give a sh-t about cab drivers just sales but then in london you dont have any option do you


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:31 am 
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if fault cured why fire suppresion kits needed


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lti never accept anything is their fault


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Capt Taxi wrote:
The heating issue intrigues me.
In previous posts,a driver has stated the VM engine was rejected by the Italian army because it was running too hot,yet still LTI used it.
Before the fires,'angrycabbie' on YouTube complained about amongst other things,'heat,heat,heat'.So have other drivers.
I don't think any work is hotter for an engine than taxi work especially in London where average speed is about 11mph.
Why did LTI enlarge the front grill from the TX11 to TX4?
To overcome the heat problems they already knew about?

This should be taken into account when LTI try to pass the buck onto VM.

LTI knew they where getting an engine that would run hot,especially in London and other cities and making the front grill bigger for improved air flow hasn't worked.

This story is go to run,run and run...

They used these engines because they were cheap, same reason they used the dodgy GM auto box.
It was all about the bottom line and it still is.
As for their image saving quick fix
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 Post subject: Re: tx4
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:06 am 
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lti dont give a sh-t about cab drivers just sales but then in london you dont have any option do you


I think the provincial drivers have more of an issue, they dont seem to be sending teams of technicians anywhere else than London.

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If it is only an iffy fuel pipe then why is there a need for this fire safety system once the pipe is replaced? :?

And has anyone else had an engine fire fueled by diesel? :?

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If it is only an iffy fuel pipe then why is there a need for this fire safety system once the pipe is replaced? :?

And has anyone else had an engine fire fueled by diesel? :?


It's not an iffy fuel pipe.

It's an iffy Exhaust Gas Recirculation pipe, that allegedly appears to fracture over time in the convolution section of the EGR pipe. They use convolutions on these pipes in the Metrocab too, so as to facilitate bends & some movement as the engine moves/vibrates whilst driving.

Most of these EGR pipes are fitted either directly to the exhaust manifold, or the exhaust downpipe, with the other end attached to somewhere on the engine air intake side, so that the exhaust gases can be re-burned to create cleaner emissions.

Just imagine how hot those gases already are in a standard engine, then imagine how much hotter they allegedly could be in a very hot running TX4 VM Motori engine.

It is NOT beyond the realms of possibility that when one of these pipes fractures, there could be, in extreme conditions, flames coming out of the fracture because the pipe itself is so close to the exhaust manifold.

That's how I under stand it to be.

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One of the most important questions in my mind is whether or not the unit is exactly the same on all TX4's? If if it isn't, then when was it altered and why and if it is then every TX4 ever produced will need altering.

Finding out whether these units have ever been changed will tell us a great deal about the future cost to LTI and whether all TX4 owners have a case for financial renumeration by way of current consumer legislation?

I think it is farely obvious that the PCO and licensing authorities will not pass these vehicles without proper modifications and an assurance that the problematic part is safe and fit for purpose.

I might add that what I have read so far doesn't solve the problem of the cracking unit, all it would apear to do is try and prevent the spread of fire.

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I might add that what I have read so far doesn't solve the problem of the cracking unit, all it would apear to do is try and prevent the spread of fire.


And that about puts it in a nutshell!!

Couldn't agree more!!!

I know you don't like the guy, Mr JD, but 'Brian with a Y' has published, in this months PHTM, about seven pages on the subject of TX4 under bonnet fires; well worth reading.

It gives a very full picture from almost day one of the problem. The link is;

http://www.phtm.co.uk/?inc_id=5

The articles appear on the following pages; 1, 4, 12, 13, 18, 20 & 32.

There may also be other pages in the issue about the subject.

Also, 'Brian with a Y' has told me that he will investigate the allegation that the VM Motori engine was rejected by the Italian military, because it became too hot under operational conditions.

So, 'Brian with a Y' ain't all that bad, is he!!

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
It gives a very full picture from almost day one of the problem. The link is;

As opposed to the actual day one covered by various TDO members. :D

Paper is a thing of the past, the future is online. :wink:

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
It gives a very full picture from almost day one of the problem. The link is;

As opposed to the actual day one covered by various TDO members. :D

Paper is a thing of the past, the future is online. :wink:


That may be so.

But having it all together in one 'place' is not a bad idea, as opposed to fragmented over 33 threads as Mr GBC posted on here not so long ago.

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Hes not a bad guy he helped with our new tariffs and the traffic commissioner told our council to get in touch with him when we go for the next one
it would be good if he stopped accepting LTI adverts though


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Hes not a bad guy he helped with our new tariffs and the traffic commissioner told our council to get in touch with him when we go for the next one
it would be good if he stopped accepting LTI adverts though


I agree, but as with all lower circulation mags & newspapers, adverts are the life-blood.

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it would be good if he stopped accepting LTI adverts though


LTI may stop giving them advertising if they don't like the coverage :shock:

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