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Never let good old fashioned predudice get in the way

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I wonder if Brian with a y is available to represent the London Taxi trade on the board of TFL, seems he knows a lot more about the situation than our current rep. And he answers Emails.

If folks want to get all the old news in one place, then best they go down to their local library.

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IDFIMH

I would like to install a sign stating "Abandon hope all ye who enter here" on my TX4.
Anyone know where I can buy a fireproof one?

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Charlton's lost past http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0
London's future? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rants.html

Not sure if it`s old news,link below to LTI up date on the 3rd October.



http://www.lti.co.uk/news/index.php?p=173

I like this bit:-
"Consider who has actually caused the losses to occur;"

Methinks compensation is going to be a fight!

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Charlton's lost past http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0
London's future? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rants.html

I sense some finger pointing towards the PCO with this paragraph.....



Guess the implication is "if you want compensation then go after the guys who stopped you working"

Could get real messy.

You mean owner drivers will be pin balling between the PCO and LTI?
That's new!

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Charlton's lost past http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0
London's future? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rants.html

Can one of the affected TX4 drivers contact Boris Johnson,telling him of the need for compensation to be paid asap? Johnson courted the cab trade at the May Mayoral election and should be supportive of the affected drivers.

Armed with this quote,find Livingstone, in a sober moment, and get a sound bite from him;then go to the media with both quotes to stir LTI/PCO into action.

Remember for generations these people have been using divide and rule tactics over the cab trade.
Now it's the trade's turn.

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Charlton's lost past http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0
London's future? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rants.html

I would like to draw everyones attention to one of the several acts that lay out the foundation of damage and damages to ones lost revenue caused by damage to ones property or person by a defect in any part attached or belonging to a product manufactured or otherwise.

The 1987 consumer protection act section 2 sets out the following in respect of damages. LTI has already acknowledged blame but the chain of accountability doesn't stop there as the following section addresses.

The need for all affected owners and drivers to get their act together and work as one unit is paramount, however that is unlikely to happen, except for those who have the backing of the LTDA.

1987 consumer protection act

2 Liability for defective products

(1) Subject to the following provisions of this Part, where any damage is caused wholly or partly by a defect in a product, every person to whom subsection (2) below applies shall be liable for the damage.

(2) This subsection applies to—

(a) the producer of the product;

(b) any person who, by putting his name on the product or using a trade mark or other distinguishing mark in relation to the product, has held himself out to be the producer of the product;

(c) any person who has imported the product into a member State from a place outside the member States in order, in the course of any business of his, to supply it to another.

(3) Subject as aforesaid, where any damage is caused wholly or partly by a defect in a product, any person who supplied the product (whether to the person who suffered the damage, to the producer of any product in which the product in question is comprised or to any other person) shall be liable for the damage if—

(a) the person who suffered the damage requests the supplier to identify one or more of the persons (whether still in existence or not) to whom subsection (2) above applies in relation to the product;

(b) that request is made within a reasonable period after the damage occurs and at a time when it is not reasonably practicable for the person making the request to identify all those persons; and

(c) the supplier fails, within a reasonable period after receiving the request, either to comply with the request or to identify the person who supplied the product to him.

(4) . . .

(5) Where two or more persons are liable by virtue of this Part for the same damage, their liability shall be joint and several.

(6) This section shall be without prejudice to any liability arising otherwise than by virtue of this Part.

Regards

JD

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* Consumer Protection Act
* Part I Product Liability
* 3 Meaning of “defect...

3 Meaning of “defect”

(1) Subject to the following provisions of this section, there is a defect in a product for the purposes of this Part if the safety of the product is not such as persons generally are entitled to expect; and for those purposes “safety”, in relation to a product, shall include safety with respect to products comprised in that product and safety in the context of risks of damage to property, as well as in the context of risks of death or personal injury.

(2) In determining for the purposes of subsection (1) above what persons generally are entitled to expect in relation to a product all the circumstances shall be taken into account, including—

(a) the manner in which, and purposes for which, the product has been marketed, its get-up, the use of any mark in relation to the product and any instructions for, or warnings with respect to, doing or refraining from doing anything with or in relation to the product;

(b) what might reasonably be expected to be done with or in relation to the product; and

(c) the time when the product was supplied by its producer to another;

**and nothing in this section shall require a defect to be inferred from the fact alone that the safety of a product which is supplied after that time is greater than the safety of the product in question.**
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I highlighted the last section because LTI have identified a defect in the vehicle but as far as I'm aware they havent stated that the later model engines are any different from the earlier models.

Regards

JD

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Copyright notice © The contents of this post are copyright of JD and are not to be reproduced outside of TDO without written permission.

* Consumer Protection Act
* Part I Product Liability
* 1 Purpose and construction

Part I Product Liability

1 Purpose and construction of Part I

(1) This Part shall have effect for the purpose of making such provision as is necessary in order to comply with the product liability Directive and shall be construed accordingly.

(2) In this Part, except in so far as the context otherwise requires—

. . .

“dependant” and “relative” have the same meanings as they have in, respectively, the Fatal Accidents Act 1976 and the Damages (Scotland) Act 1976;

“producer”, in relation to a product, means—

(a) the person who manufactured it;

(b) in the case of a substance which has not been manufactured but has been won or abstracted, the person who won or abstracted it;

(c) in the case of a product which has not been manufactured, won or abstracted but essential characteristics of which are attributable to an industrial or other process having been carried out (for example, in relation to agricultural produce), the person who carried out that process;

“product” means any goods or electricity and (subject to subsection (3) below) includes a product which is comprised in another product, whether by virtue of being a component part or raw material or otherwise; and

“the product liability Directive” means the Directive of the Council of the European Communities, dated 25th July 1985, (No 85/374/EEC) on the approximation of the laws, regulations and administrative provisions of the member States concerning liability for defective products.

(3) For the purposes of this Part a person who supplies any product in which products are comprised, whether by virtue of being component parts or raw materials or otherwise, shall not be treated by reason only of his supply of that product as supplying any of the products so comprised.
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So how is the recall programme at LTI going?

angrycabby's video diary on YouTube makes interesting but sad viewing at

http://uk.youtube.com/user/angrycabby

By the way,is that white thing in the background his bed...?

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Charlton's lost past http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0
London's future? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rants.html

I thought KPM took it back off him to shut him up ??

Apparently not see his latest video on YouTube at:- http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8l3XqmBU2wU

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Charlton's lost past http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFKWGlrze0
London's future? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rants.html