Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Sun May 03, 2026 7:26 am

Board index » General » News

All times are UTC [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 5
  [ 73 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
MR T
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
bloodnock wrote:
gusmac wrote:
jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I wonder why the disability groups did not point out that most disabled cannot get into a WAV


Would that be because they don't tell blatant lies skippy?


Most disabled people don't have a wheelchair. Even the ones who do often prefer a saloon ( including Anne Begg MP who requests a saloon car when booking through her usual firm in Aberdeen).
Almost all ambient disabled (the ones who can walk a little for the hard of thinking) prefer a saloon type vehicle and request one when booking :shock:

And as a thought: Hardly any wheelchair users ever get taxis from a rank or hail them in the street. They usually phone for one. :shock:



I'd put money on it that the People that are shouting the loudest for WAV's are mostly the "abled bodied Liberal do gooding must have at to hell with the expense brigade" and not most of the wheelchair users themselves.

As is the general consenus that Wheelchair users would much rather slide into a saloon unless severely Impared in which case a specialist transport team may be of more use, something to which all taxis can never be expected to achieve.

The disabled are like you and I, they suffer from embarassment just the same. Im sure they have no wish to be seen perched in a wheelchair like a bird in a glass cage as they get driven about, it also raises safety aspects, the wheelchair users that can drive don't use WAVS but normally haul themselves in sideways to saloon style cars. so why do the overly Zealous do gooders not see that and take a more realistic approach to the problem.

I just can't believe......... that you could be embarrassed .
:wink:

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!
Top
 Profile  
 
bloodnock
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 8:15 pm
Posts: 9170
MR T wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
gusmac wrote:
jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I wonder why the disability groups did not point out that most disabled cannot get into a WAV


Would that be because they don't tell blatant lies skippy?


Most disabled people don't have a wheelchair. Even the ones who do often prefer a saloon ( including Anne Begg MP who requests a saloon car when booking through her usual firm in Aberdeen).
Almost all ambient disabled (the ones who can walk a little for the hard of thinking) prefer a saloon type vehicle and request one when booking :shock:

And as a thought: Hardly any wheelchair users ever get taxis from a rank or hail them in the street. They usually phone for one. :shock:



I'd put money on it that the People that are shouting the loudest for WAV's are mostly the "abled bodied Liberal do gooding must have at to hell with the expense brigade" and not most of the wheelchair users themselves.

As is the general consenus that Wheelchair users would much rather slide into a saloon unless severely Impared in which case a specialist transport team may be of more use, something to which all taxis can never be expected to achieve.

The disabled are like you and I, they suffer from embarassment just the same. Im sure they have no wish to be seen perched in a wheelchair like a bird in a glass cage as they get driven about, it also raises safety aspects, the wheelchair users that can drive don't use WAVS but normally haul themselves in sideways to saloon style cars. so why do the overly Zealous do gooders not see that and take a more realistic approach to the problem.

I just can't believe......... that you could be embarrassed .
:wink:


As Professional Drivers we feel no Embarrassment..we can break wind loudly and still remain cool and unashamed...but that's because we are a very very special breed :roll:
Top
 Profile  
 
jimbo
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:23 pm
Posts: 5003
Location: Lincoln
skippy41 wrote:
I wonder why the disability groups did not point out that most disabled cannot get into a WAV



Shall we start again from the beginning, boys and girls?


Skippy 41 makes the claim that "most disabled cannot get into a WAV"

Now that is simply not true, is it?

Had he made the claim that most disabled would PREFER to travel by the vehicle of their choice, it would have been difficult to refute.

However, I cannot recall the last time, (mainly because there wasn't a last time) that anyone, whether able bodied or disabled was physically unable to get into my vehicle.

Some people travel by purpose built taxi because they have to, others because they want to, and yet others because they have no preference one way or the other.

I dislike donner kebabs. But that does not mean I am physically unable to eat one.

Some of us out here had no choice but to operate a WAV, and have learnt to live with it.

The good Mr Sussex has regularly asked the question, how do you fairly and reasonably introduce a mixed fleet?

Just how do you say to one owner driver spend £32K, and to another you can have a £13K saloon?

_________________
Former taxi driver
Top
 Profile  
 
gusmac
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:31 pm
Posts: 12045
Location: Aberdeen
jimbo wrote:
Just how do you say to one owner driver spend £32K, and to another you can have a £13K saloon?


Aberdeen council have been doing exactly that for the last 14 years.

_________________
Image
http://wingsoverscotland.com/ http://www.newsnetscotland.com/
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
Sussex
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57356
Location: 1066 Country
gusmac wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Just how do you say to one owner driver spend £32K, and to another you can have a £13K saloon?


Aberdeen council have been doing exactly that for the last 14 years.

And not just that council. :sad:

_________________
IDFIMH
Top
 Profile  
 
skippy41
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:44 pm
Posts: 10591
Location: Scotland
I thought we where to find out what the government had decided regarding the DDA in September :?:
Top
 Profile  
 
captain cab
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
Sussex wrote:
gusmac wrote:
jimbo wrote:
Just how do you say to one owner driver spend £32K, and to another you can have a £13K saloon?


Aberdeen council have been doing exactly that for the last 14 years.

And not just that council. :sad:


I quite like this new anti competitive streak...I mean I now operate a vehicle that gets double the MPG of my rivals in a TX, its cheaper to run and cheaper to insure, and it cost one third of the price!

The LA was so alarmed by the decrease in WAV's it had to stop saloons being licensed, now we have saloon plates exchanging hands for money!

I still have to thank JD for this....he's made me a small fortune :wink:

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin
Top
 Profile  
 
MR T
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:26 pm
Posts: 8529
bloodnock wrote:
MR T wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
gusmac wrote:
jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I wonder why the disability groups did not point out that most disabled cannot get into a WAV


Would that be because they don't tell blatant lies skippy?


Most disabled people don't have a wheelchair. Even the ones who do often prefer a saloon ( including Anne Begg MP who requests a saloon car when booking through her usual firm in Aberdeen).
Almost all ambient disabled (the ones who can walk a little for the hard of thinking) prefer a saloon type vehicle and request one when booking :shock:

And as a thought: Hardly any wheelchair users ever get taxis from a rank or hail them in the street. They usually phone for one. :shock:



I'd put money on it that the People that are shouting the loudest for WAV's are mostly the "abled bodied Liberal do gooding must have at to hell with the expense brigade" and not most of the wheelchair users themselves.

As is the general consenus that Wheelchair users would much rather slide into a saloon unless severely Impared in which case a specialist transport team may be of more use, something to which all taxis can never be expected to achieve.

The disabled are like you and I, they suffer from embarassment just the same. Im sure they have no wish to be seen perched in a wheelchair like a bird in a glass cage as they get driven about, it also raises safety aspects, the wheelchair users that can drive don't use WAVS but normally haul themselves in sideways to saloon style cars. so why do the overly Zealous do gooders not see that and take a more realistic approach to the problem.

I just can't believe......... that you could be embarrassed .
:wink:


As Professional Drivers we feel no Embarrassment..we can break wind loudly and still remain cool and unashamed...but that's because we are a very very special breed :roll:


I have a tendency to agree with you.. But I'll be extremely interest to see which parts of the NVQ will be teaching that ability. :lol:

_________________
Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!
Top
 Profile  
 
JD
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:03 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
captain cab wrote:
I quite like this new anti competitive streak...I mean I now operate a vehicle that gets double the MPG of my rivals in a TX, its cheaper to run and cheaper to insure, and it cost one third of the price!

The LA was so alarmed by the decrease in WAV's it had to stop saloons being licensed, now we have saloon plates exchanging hands for money!

I still have to thank JD for this....he's made me a small fortune :wink:

CC


I seem to recall it was Carlisle taxi association that asked Carlisle council to stop issuing saloon licenses and not JD. I also recall the council agreed to the associations request and that was long before the council were informed by the magistrates court that their condition of license regarding saloon vehicles plying for hire near the station was illegal.

However if the associations request made you a small fortune then I'm sure we are all pleased about that.

If the courts or the Secretary of state decide that a mixed fleet is required under the DDA then Carlisle will be well placed to fulfill that requirement.

Regards

JD

_________________
Copyright notice © The contents of this post are copyright of JD and are not to be reproduced outside of TDO without written permission.
Top
 Profile  
 
captain cab
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
JD wrote:

If the courts or the Secretary of state decide that a mixed fleet is required under the DDA then Carlisle will be well placed to fulfill that requirement.

Regards

JD


Thats right JD....but who's paying for the mixed fleet? Who's gonna say he has this and he has that?

I cant see old Jimmy B's point of new applicants 'being so chuffed' they wont say nowt actually being a viable argument.

regards

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin
Top
 Profile  
 
jimbo
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:23 pm
Posts: 5003
Location: Lincoln
skippy41 wrote:
jimbo wrote:
gusmac wrote:
jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I wonder why the disability groups did not point out that most disabled cannot get into a WAV


Would that be because they don't tell blatant lies skippy?


Most disabled people don't have a wheelchair. Even the ones who do often prefer a saloon ( including Anne Begg MP who requests a saloon car when booking through her usual firm in Aberdeen).
Almost all ambient disabled (the ones who can walk a little for the hard of thinking) prefer a saloon type vehicle and request one when booking :shock:

And as a thought: Hardly any wheelchair users ever get taxis from a rank or hail them in the street. They usually phone for one. :shock:



Just a thought: A preference for a saloon car is rather different from an inability to access or egress a purpose built, wheelchair accessible taxi.

Skippy made an outrageous and unfounded claim in that, "most disabled cannot get into a WAV"

I am not a champion for LTI or for anyone else, but to make such a ridiculous claim is patently absurd.

What do you say, Skippy?


Well Jimbo as you have been christened the hard of thinking or brain dead in my book.
When I say most disabled I mean it regardless of manufacturer


How surprising. Skippy has a book. Janet and John?

_________________
Former taxi driver
Top
 Profile  
 
captain cab
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
jimbo wrote:

How surprising. Skippy has a book. Janet and John?


I think its titled 'the world revolving around me'

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin
Top
 Profile  
 
JD
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
captain cab wrote:
Thats right JD....but who's paying for the mixed fleet? Who's gonna say he has this and he has that?

I cant see old Jimmy B's point of new applicants 'being so chuffed' they wont say nowt actually being a viable argument.

regards

CC


I haven't got a clue how that will be achieved but I am confident it will happen. I suspect councils will do exactly what your council is doing and look at the make up of the taxi fleet and only issue new licenses to either wavs or saloons depending on where the shortage falls?

Those councils that restrict numbers are obviously going to have a problem but those that don't won't have such a problem because the majority are saloons.

Regards

JD

_________________
Copyright notice © The contents of this post are copyright of JD and are not to be reproduced outside of TDO without written permission.
Top
 Profile  
 
captain cab
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
JD wrote:

I haven't got a clue how that will be achieved but I am confident it will happen. I suspect councils will do exactly what your council is doing and look at the make up of the taxi fleet and only issue new licenses to either wavs or saloons depending on where the shortage falls?

Those councils that restrict numbers are obviously going to have a problem but those that don't won't have such a problem because the majority are saloons.

Regards

JD



But surely a hackney carriage is a hackney carriage?

Or is it a Hackney Carriage can be a hackney carriage, just so long as you were spawny enough to get one before a certain date?

How can a council allow a system where one person can buy a £10K cab and another MUST purchase a £25K cab?

Again.....being chuffed doesnt appear to be a legal thing does it?

regards

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin
Top
 Profile  
 
skippy41
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:47 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:44 pm
Posts: 10591
Location: Scotland
If a council decides that all new applicants must provide a wav in a predominantly saloon area I cannot see any up take.
But if they have an imposed age limit on those saloons they could say you must replace it with a wav.
But that will put the cat amongst the pigeons as those who cannot afford to buy one will leave the trade thereby cutting the numbers in that area

Quote:
Again.....being chuffed doesnt appear to be a legal thing does it?

neither does being a dipstick :wink: :lol:
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 5
  [ 73 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Board index » General » News

All times are UTC [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 822 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group