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 Post subject: Hackney used for Wedding
PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:55 am 
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a driver with a hackney has [tx4] got himself hired for a wedding reception

dont know the cost he as qouted but thinks it up in the hundred plus pounds bracket

which is true

he can only use the meter

or he can price what he likes


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:02 am 
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Stinky Pete wrote:
a driver with a hackney has [tx4] got himself hired for a wedding reception

dont know the cost he as qouted but thinks it up in the hundred plus pounds bracket

which is true

he can only use the meter

or he can price what he likes


He can charge what he likes its a PH arrangement, the cab will be off the road for a wash and polish and possibly ribbons applied it could also be hired all day
I take £200 to £250 for a wedding the sign is removed then washed and polished then out comes the tin flute
most of the weddings I do are an all day affair
If the bride and groom need to go elsewhere after the reception
But after they have gone on goes the sign, and all guests have to pay :D


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:23 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
Stinky Pete wrote:
a driver with a hackney has [tx4] got himself hired for a wedding reception

dont know the cost he as qouted but thinks it up in the hundred plus pounds bracket

which is true

he can only use the meter

or he can price what he likes


He can charge what he likes its a PH arrangement, the cab will be off the road for a wash and polish and possibly ribbons applied it could also be hired all day
I take £200 to £250 for a wedding the sign is removed then washed and polished then out comes the tin flute
most of the weddings I do are an all day affair
If the bride and groom need to go elsewhere after the reception
But after they have gone on goes the sign, and all guests have to pay :D


WRONG. (again, as usual) try the misc. prov act 1976. Skippy please engage brain before operating computer.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:27 am 
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Is this the bit?

67 Hackney carriages used for private hire (1) No hackney carriage shall be used in the district under contract or purported contract for private hire except at a rate of fares or charges not greater than that fixed by the byelaws or table mentioned in section 66 of this Act, and, when any such hackney carriage is so used, the fare or charge shall be calculated from the point in the district at which the hirer commences his journey.

(2) Any person who knowingly contravenes this section shall be guilty of an offence.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:33 am 
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brightonbreezy wrote:
Is this the bit?

67 Hackney carriages used for private hire (1) No hackney carriage shall be used in the district under contract or purported contract for private hire except at a rate of fares or charges not greater than that fixed by the byelaws or table mentioned in section 66 of this Act, and, when any such hackney carriage is so used, the fare or charge shall be calculated from the point in the district at which the hirer commences his journey.

(2) Any person who knowingly contravenes this section shall be guilty of an offence.


So does that mean you can't charge a premium to be hiked several miles to do a short fare, in which case the punter probably won't be supplie with a taxi?

Interesting. Here you can effectively treat the run as private hire and charge a negotiated fare, as skippy said.


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Fae Fife wrote:
brightonbreezy wrote:
Is this the bit?

67 Hackney carriages used for private hire (1) No hackney carriage shall be used in the district under contract or purported contract for private hire except at a rate of fares or charges not greater than that fixed by the byelaws or table mentioned in section 66 of this Act, and, when any such hackney carriage is so used, the fare or charge shall be calculated from the point in the district at which the hirer commences his journey.

(2) Any person who knowingly contravenes this section shall be guilty of an offence.


So does that mean you can't charge a premium to be hiked several miles to do a short fare, in which case the punter probably won't be supplie with a taxi?

Interesting. Here you can effectively treat the run as private hire and charge a negotiated fare, as skippy said.


I would say that any Taxi that operates in a licensing Authority that sets the fares, would be breaking the law if they charged anything other than what the set fare is in that Licensing Authority, However, as you point out the chance of a punter complaining in your example would be very remote, as they know they would not get a service. We have companys in our area offering wedding services on their web sites, these are TX's at set fares, but no one has complained so far!

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Section 75 1 (c) ?

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captain cab wrote:
Section 75 1 (c) ?

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A very good point Captain, so are you saying that this part of the act over rides section 67 regarding weddings?

7 5 Saving for certain vehicles etc (I) Nothing in this Part of this Act shall —

c) apply to a vehicle while it is being used in connection with a funeral or
a vehicle used wholly or mainly, by a person carrying on the business
of a funeral director, for the purpose of funerals;
[(cc) apply to a vehicle while it is being used in connection with a wedding;]

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I dont know to be honest, a hackney carriage is always a hackney carriage, yet recently there was a discussion regarding not being at work and driving around in your cab.

The section of the act offers exemption to a vehicle "while it is being used in connection with a wedding"

I can see what Jimbo means, but I tend to think it provides dispensation.

I cant see any LA making an issue of it anyway.

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captain cab wrote:
I dont know to be honest, a hackney carriage is always a hackney carriage, yet recently there was a discussion regarding not being at work and driving around in your cab.

The section of the act offers exemption to a vehicle "while it is being used in connection with a wedding"

I can see what Jimbo means, but I tend to think it provides dispensation.

I cant see any LA making an issue of it anyway.

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It would be interesting to put a thread up and for us all to ask our L/A's opinion on the subject?

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brightonbreezy wrote:

It would be interesting to put a thread up and for us all to ask our L/A's opinion on the subject?

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I agree, but saying that the vehicle was presumably selected because it was a hackney carriage in the first place....I presume it would be a bridge too far to suggest it can be exempted from HC laws when it was picked for being a HC in the first place.

All very confusing, and I can see merits in both arguments.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:29 pm 
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jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Stinky Pete wrote:
a driver with a hackney has [tx4] got himself hired for a wedding reception

dont know the cost he as qouted but thinks it up in the hundred plus pounds bracket

which is true

he can only use the meter

or he can price what he likes


He can charge what he likes its a PH arrangement, the cab will be off the road for a wash and polish and possibly ribbons applied it could also be hired all day
I take £200 to £250 for a wedding the sign is removed then washed and polished then out comes the tin flute
most of the weddings I do are an all day affair
If the bride and groom need to go elsewhere after the reception
But after they have gone on goes the sign, and all guests have to pay :D


WRONG. (again, as usual) try the misc. prov act 1976. Skippy please engage brain before operating computer.


Jimbo considering you dont seam to have a blockage between your ears,apart from wax, this is Scotland we are talking about but down there if the contract is negotiated and all parties are happy the agreed price still stands
If a punter should be daft enough to come to you and say I will give you x amount to take me to the next pub over and above the prescribed fare are you going to turn down a nice earner more than likely you would as your a bob short of a ten bob note


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Whereabouts in Scotland is the wonderful City of York?

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captain cab wrote:
Whereabouts in Scotland is the wonderful City of York?

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Turn left at Auchermuchty and keep going :D


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the waiting time at the church and reception would exceed £200.............


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