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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:59 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
So we are covered by all 3 if we see a PH illegally plying for hire,


or if i see you here doing the same...


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wannabeeahack wrote:
GD, read it again

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Hackney driver " Yes lets call the police and I can explain to them that your a PH from outside the area illegally plying for hire ! "


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I sugest you read it again from the top.

"Last saturday night we had the usual Peterborugh PH cars trying to rank up in the square where the taxi rank USED to be. Absolutelt no danger of them getting caught as the council does not employ a full time enforcement officer !

One of the local hackney drivers who wasn't working but out for a drink walked up to him "

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FFS. swimming in soup is easier

if the off duty HC had tried the same with a non-local HC then the result woulda been exactly the same


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Last saturday night we had the usual Peterborugh PH cars trying to rank up in the square where the taxi rank USED to be. Absolutelt no danger of them getting caught as the council does not employ a full time enforcement officer !

One of the local hackney drivers who wasn't working but out for a drink walked up to him

Hackney driver " Are you free mate"

PH driver "yes where do yyou want to go"

Hackney driver " Cliff road "

PH driver " you show me the way ? "

Hackney driver " OK mate"

Actually he only lived 5 minutes walk up the road but the PH driver thought he had a fare :lol:

3 minutes later they are at the house the local hackney driver gets out and says " I'm not paying you your a PH illegally ranking ! "

PH driver " No you pay me or I'll call the police ! "

Hackney driver " Yes lets call the police and I can explain to them that your a PH from outside the area illegally plying for hire ! "

the PH driver drives off the local Hackney driver got a free lift home RESULT !!!!! :D :D :D :D :D


if the vehicle the off-duty HC driver had approached was a non-locally plated HC then that driver (if accepting the fare) would have been also as gulity as any PH in the same circumstance


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Yes lets call the police and I can explain to them that your a HACKNEY from outside the area illegally plying for hire !


having said that, whats the AREA got to do with it in the origibal post, a PH cannot ply for hire in his OWN area?....


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I did a similar thing about 10 yrs ago.
I was living in billericay essex and was on a night out in central london.
I waited at the junc of charring cross rd and shaftsbury av and this is what happened.

"taxi boss"(asian guy in a toyota)
"are you the cab going to essex"
"yes yes"
"are you from fleet cars?"
"yes yes, get in boss, I take you to essex"

So in I get and off we go to billericay(about 35 miles away)
When we get to billericay I ask him to stop outside the police station.

"how much do I owe you driver"
"£80 boss"(fare should have been about £30!)
I then hand him an account docket with £80 written on it.
"whats this boss?"
"an account docket, I have an account with fleet cars"
"I don't work for fleet cars boss, you pay me cash"
"you said you worked for fleet cars when you picked me up, you have broken the law, we better go into the police station to sort it out"
"no police boss, you get out of car"

Result!, I get out of the car and walk to the local cab office and go the rest of the way home in one of thier cabs.

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great idea........may have to try it out one night though to be honest i'd rather get him down a dark alley and beat the living s**t out of him though i'd imagine that's a tad extreme and wouldn't do my job prospects much good! :roll:


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acabbie wrote:
great idea........may have to try it out one night though to be honest i'd rather get him down a dark alley and beat the living s**t out of him though i'd imagine that's a tad extreme and wouldn't do my job prospects much good! :roll:


now then, lets roll back to a question i posed ages ago

without posturing or feather ruffling or screaming answer me this...

you have a 15 year old daughter

she (as 15 year old girls will) goes out with her mates

her mates leave her stranded in an area she doesnt know at 2am in the rain

shes standing there sobbing

now i happen along (im a PHV) and as a dad of 3 girls (and 2 lads) i can see shes distressed and stop to ask if shes ok

(shes tried ringing dad, mum, family, mates, local taxis, to no avail)

now then as her dad, what would you rather i do?

(dont waffle about this rule/that rule)



im really keen to know what you suggest................

p.s. only parents can reply, cos only they will understand


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Get her to phone your office and book you for the journey home, all legal.
Or, give her a lift home and don't charge her(ive done this in the past).

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A slightly diforent scenario that I have encountered this week is this. I have a contract with the County Council to transport a student to college. For the next 2 weeks his support worker is on jury service so he has been provided with a replacement. This replacement support worker lives close to where the student lives so the school have cancelled my car so that the support worker can take the student with her. Is that legal?

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Get her to phone your office and book you for the journey home, all legal.
Or, give her a lift home and don't charge her(ive done this in the past).



i AM the office (owner driver)

shes not going my way, im generous by nature but not philanthropic (or goverment funded)


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grandad wrote:
A slightly diforent scenario that I have encountered this week is this. I have a contract with the County Council to transport a student to college. For the next 2 weeks his support worker is on jury service so he has been provided with a replacement. This replacement support worker lives close to where the student lives so the school have cancelled my car so that the support worker can take the student with her. Is that legal?


dont know but social workers/carers pickup people everyday of the week so maybe it is, maybe it isnt....


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acabbie wrote:
i was considering organising something similar in London; a group of us getting into illegal PH's outside one of the clubs in Kensington/City etc and having the muppet drive us somewhere. Once at the pre-determined destination, perhaps near an open police station, getting out and refusing to pay..............on second thoughts, where the hell do you find an open nick at night ?? :sad:

Ah well, it was a thought anyhow. :wink:


This was tried a number of times by the LCDC with touts being taken from Regent street to Chelsea police station. On every occasion the Touts were let off and the club members were cautioned. Eventually that were warned if they persisted they would be arrested for wasting police time.

Still times have changed and it may be fun one night to organise something again and have the press waiting at the nick. Or perhaps Peter Hendy, Ed Thompson, Mary Dowdye and Bob Oddie!
Perhaps I'm getting carried away now :roll:


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grandad wrote:
A slightly diforent scenario that I have encountered this week is this. I have a contract with the County Council to transport a student to college. For the next 2 weeks his support worker is on jury service so he has been provided with a replacement. This replacement support worker lives close to where the student lives so the school have cancelled my car so that the support worker can take the student with her. Is that legal?


Not if she gets paid for it.

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acabbie wrote:
great idea........may have to try it out one night though to be honest i'd rather get him down a dark alley and beat the living s**t out of him though i'd imagine that's a tad extreme and wouldn't do my job prospects much good! :roll:


now then, lets roll back to a question i posed ages ago

without posturing or feather ruffling or screaming answer me this...

you have a 15 year old daughter

she (as 15 year old girls will) goes out with her mates

her mates leave her stranded in an area she doesnt know at 2am in the rain

shes standing there sobbing

now i happen along (im a PHV) and as a dad of 3 girls (and 2 lads) i can see shes distressed and stop to ask if shes ok

(shes tried ringing dad, mum, family, mates, local taxis, to no avail)

now then as her dad, what would you rather i do?

(dont waffle about this rule/that rule)



im really keen to know what you suggest................

p.s. only parents can reply, cos only they will understand



As her Dad? It wouldn't have happened. At fifteen, out with "mates" till 2am? No way, matey, no way.

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acabbie wrote:
great idea........may have to try it out one night though to be honest i'd rather get him down a dark alley and beat the living s**t out of him though i'd imagine that's a tad extreme and wouldn't do my job prospects much good! :roll:


now then, lets roll back to a question i posed ages ago

without posturing or feather ruffling or screaming answer me this...

you have a 15 year old daughter

she (as 15 year old girls will) goes out with her mates

her mates leave her stranded in an area she doesnt know at 2am in the rain

shes standing there sobbing

now i happen along (im a PHV) and as a dad of 3 girls (and 2 lads) i can see shes distressed and stop to ask if shes ok

(shes tried ringing dad, mum, family, mates, local taxis, to no avail)

now then as her dad, what would you rather i do?

(dont waffle about this rule/that rule)



im really keen to know what you suggest................

p.s. only parents can reply, cos only they will understand


You could just do the job and bullsh*t about a booking as PH normally do when plying for hire.
Or you could do it for free as was stated - it's your conscience.
You know what the law says. What any of us think is irrelevant.

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