Can I "Radio" job in from a different borough?

medway · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:07 pm

Hi All

The area I operate in has pretty poor night life. Therefore during the evenings we do get jobs into the next town, which happens to operate under a different council. Therefore I am not licensed to pick up jobs within this town. That is obviously unless it has been pre-booked - either privately or for the taxi firm I work for.

Anyway sometimes when I drop someone off into this next town, I am approached with people wanting a taxi back to my town. I obviously decline and say I am not licensed to work in this town etc etc. This usually works ok - however a couple of days ago it was one of my companies regular customers and it was raining quite hard. To cut a long story short he was not happy that I did not pick him up and returned empty and has stated he will not use us agan.

We use the conventional 2-Way Radio - in future is it possible that for a similar incident that I can ask the Operator (over the Radio) to take this job for me and to pick up the customer??

I guess not - as this can open up plenty of problems with people touting and then asking the operator to write the job down.

Any ideas?

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:34 pm

medway wrote:

We use the conventional 2-Way Radio - in future is it possible that for a similar incident that I can ask the Operator (over the Radio) to take this job for me and to pick up the customer??

I guess not - as this can open up plenty of problems with people touting and then asking the operator to write the job down.

Any ideas?

I'd say no you cant do it, but others will doubtless disagree.

regards

CC

meltingsmoke · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:36 pm

i would thought if the passengers are coming back to your town, why they cannot phone up your firm and book a cab

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:44 pm

I think the following link covers it;

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3615&highlight=ogwr

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

captain cab wrote:

medway wrote:

We use the conventional 2-Way Radio - in future is it possible that for a similar incident that I can ask the Operator (over the Radio) to take this job for me and to pick up the customer??

I guess not - as this can open up plenty of problems with people touting and then asking the operator to write the job down.

Any ideas?

I'd say no you cant do it, but others will doubtless disagree.

regards

CC

There's your answer.

Thank the customer for providing you with an opportunity to break the law and then explain to them that you are not licensed for public hire in this particular area.

Regards

JD

medway · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:50 pm

I understand that I am not licensed for "Public" hire within that area. And I would not want someone from a different area coming into mine and picking up passengers.

But this whole business seems very "flaky" - as I guess if I cannot Radio the job in. I can give the customer a business card and ask them to ring the number and subsequently do the job.

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:55 pm

medway wrote:

But this whole business seems very "flaky" - as I guess if I cannot Radio the job in. I can give the customer a business card and ask them to ring the number and subsequently do the job.

No, that would be touting and an arrestable offence :wink:

CC

Sussex · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:37 pm

medway wrote:

To cut a long story short he was not happy that I did not pick him up and returned empty and has stated he will not use us agan.

Well if he had a brain then he would have rung your firm and asked if there were any cars near by.

As for the touting issue, if you have numbers on your car and a customer notes that down and rings for a car, then I can't see how you are touting.

Maybe if you stop and start dishing out cards, but otherwise no.

JD · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm **Posts:** 10381

medway wrote:

But this whole business seems very "flaky" - as I guess if I cannot Radio the job in. I can give the customer a business card and ask them to ring the number and subsequently do the job.

Well a private hire driver tried that once and he was convicted of plying for hire. I know I posted the case on here as a guest quite some time ago but I can't find the damm thing, which is most irritating.

I think it is time for another case of that description just to clarify the position for both out of area hackney carriages and private hire drivers.

Touting and illegal plying for hire denote two different offences but I suppose circumstances could prevail where both offences are commited at the same time?

Regards

JD

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:59 pm

I find it quite alarming that I find myself agreeing with JD more and more.

:shock:

regards

CC

wannabeeahack · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:15 pm

Sussex wrote:

medway wrote:

To cut a long story short he was not happy that I did not pick him up and returned empty and has stated he will not use us agan.

Well if he had a brain then he would have rung your firm and asked if there were any cars near by.

As for the touting issue, if you have numbers on your car and a customer notes that down and rings for a car, then I can't see how you are touting.

Maybe if you stop and start dishing out cards, but otherwise no.

if the driver had been bequeathed a brain at birth he could have taken a few courses of action but didnt

"step back in the pub sir and a car will be here in 10 minutes, it will look just like this one...."

captain cab · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:25 pm

wannabeeahack wrote:

Sussex wrote:

medway wrote:

To cut a long story short he was not happy that I did not pick him up and returned empty and has stated he will not use us agan.

Well if he had a brain then he would have rung your firm and asked if there were any cars near by.

As for the touting issue, if you have numbers on your car and a customer notes that down and rings for a car, then I can't see how you are touting.

Maybe if you stop and start dishing out cards, but otherwise no.

if the driver had been bequeathed a brain at birth he could have taken a few courses of action but didnt

"step back in the pub sir and a car will be here in 10 minutes, it will look just like this one...."

IMO still illegal :shock:

CC

Sussex · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:13 pm

captain cab wrote:

wannabeeahack wrote:

"step back in the pub sir and a car will be here in 10 minutes, it will look just like this one...."

IMO still illegal :shock:

IMO it doesn't have to be even 1 minute to be legal. :shock:

wannabeeahack · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:50 pm

Sussex wrote:

captain cab wrote:

wannabeeahack wrote:

"step back in the pub sir and a car will be here in 10 minutes, it will look just like this one...."

IMO still illegal :shock:

IMO it doesn't have to be even 1 minute to be legal. :shock:

maybe, but it would give the driver time for a pee

then we have "touting/plying for hire" issue and how vehicle signs COULD be deemed as doing this wherever and whenever the vehicle is static

bloodnock · **Joined:** Thu May 03, 2007 8:15 pm **Posts:** 9170

Medway......If the Disgruntled customer had not been such a daft Pr*ck he would have pre booked you take him home in the first place.....your better off without that kind of whiner as a customer and focus more on the deserving ones...

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