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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:40 pm 
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That's why I suggested a 'plate' that tallies up with their badge.

This would have to come with a penalty for failing to display, or as an alternative, Cab plates may have to be a different colour, it won't be easy but other places like Aylesbury have a similar scheme.


Get them to paint the cabs yellow


You were against colour policies last time :roll:

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Colour coding the badge and cab only applies to London though :wink:


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skippy41 wrote:
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That's why I suggested a 'plate' that tallies up with their badge.

This would have to come with a penalty for failing to display, or as an alternative, Cab plates may have to be a different colour, it won't be easy but other places like Aylesbury have a similar scheme.


Get them to paint the cabs yellow


You were against colour policies last time :roll:

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Colour coding the badge and cab only applies to London though :wink:


I see.....then make the ones in Central London Luminous Green :lol:

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I’m a suburban driver and I use Comcab.

As I understand it although as far as the law goes a Hack can pick up a pre booked fare anywhere, Comcab refuse to give Yellow badges work in part of Central London though they will give work to yellow badges in any suburban area, as well as a large chunk of the Green badge area.

Personally I don’t accept any pick up’s west of Canning Town flyover because I find it too stressful working roads that I don’t know well enough.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:02 am 
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We are therefore looking at alternative forms of identification that would make it easier for the public, compliance officers and police a like to know whether the driver is a suburban or all London driver.

Simon Buggey, PCO.


How about the yellow badge round his/her neck?

I can see it now, a little unreadable sticker in the side window. Like all the other important notices we have to display.
What ever they decide to use will have to be removable, so ineffective!
What if they share a cab with a green badge driver?

Simon Buggey!
this is the PCO officer that told me, when you've dropped at Kings Cross you will have to wait behind any cab on the rank as U-turns are banned and you cant cross the double white lines in the middle of the road.
This situation was not correct and has now been simplified by the removal of one white line which was replaced by a broken line, thanks to
Mike Pearl Public Carriage Office/TFL
As he said you only have to say, if you think there is a problem.
Nice Man Mike Pearl.


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I believe that the outer London boroughs should license taxis for their own borough.
The present system does not work and is not enforceable.The economy of outer London is different to the centre (compare Thamesmead with Notting Hill).
The TfL empire is too big and unaccountable.

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Capt Taxi wrote:
The TfL empire is too big and unaccountable.

Thats another reason why it should be broken up in to two licensing authorities, One for PH and one for black cabs


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A simple Green or Yellow widow sticker that matches the drivers badge number could suffice.


And we all know how good TFL are at printing stickers, PHV have 7to9, Taxis have 4to6 another couple and they may even get a discount.


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thomasthetaxi wrote:
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A simple Green or Yellow widow sticker that matches the drivers badge number could suffice.


And we all know how good TFL are at printing stickers, PHV have 7to9, Taxis have 4to6 another couple and they may even get a discount.


Don't all these stickers restrict the drivers view from the car?

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Don't all these stickers restrict the drivers view from the car?


My point exactly.

And now the PCO/TFL, under press release 16/08, have granted private hire cars the right to cover the bottom one third of their tinted back window with a logo and telephone number. One third high and across the complete width of the back windscreen.
Yet I got a stop for having an advert for KPM, a supplier of Taxi cabs!, on the tax disc holder.
Didn't the government banned bumper stickers in rear windows last year, said it was highly dangerous?
Wasn't that the reason Addi Lee had to take theirs logo off in the first place.?
Does the carriage office/TFL make laws that supersede the MOT's?
Its one law for them and one different law for us.
It took an act of parliament for black cabs to be allowed in to the royal parks with livery, but the nice Mr Ed Thompson has had a word with the parks police and they will not issue penalty notices to PHV drivers with livery or paying customers. Paying customers in PHV's are also banned from royal parks.


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thomasthetaxi wrote:-

"It took an act of parliament for black cabs to be allowed in to the royal parks with livery",
meanwhile minicabs still illegally use the Royal parks with immunity...

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PCO Notice 44/08

Suburban taxi drivers plying for hire off area

The Public Carriage Office is receiving an increasing number of reports of Suburban (yellow badge) taxi drivers plying for hire in central London. Suburban drivers are reminded that under the London Cab Order 1934, paragraphs 27 and 31, their licence limits the area in which they may ply for hire.

Any driver who is convicted, cautioned or warned by the police for plying for hire off their area, will have their fitness to remain licensed considered by the Licensing Authority. Offences identified by PCO staff during compliance activity will be considered in a similar manner.

Clearly if individuals wish to ply for hire in central London then there is nothing to prevent them from taking the All London Knowledge and becoming licensed for that area as many suburban drivers have done in the past and continue to do now.

Mary Dowdye

1 December 2008 Head of Standards & Regulations


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As long as they don't pick up on a PH rank, then does it really matter? :D

Still the answer to all these problems is to let the yellow lads pick up in yellow land Heathrow.

Or was that item on the cafe agenda the other night? :D

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GBC wrote:
PCO Notice 44/08

Suburban taxi drivers plying for hire off area

The Public Carriage Office is receiving an increasing number of reports of Suburban (yellow badge) taxi drivers plying for hire in central London. Suburban drivers are reminded that under the London Cab Order 1934, paragraphs 27 and 31, their licence limits the area in which they may ply for hire.

Any driver who is convicted, cautioned or warned by the police for plying for hire off their area, will have their fitness to remain licensed considered by the Licensing Authority. Offences identified by PCO staff during compliance activity will be considered in a similar manner.

Clearly if individuals wish to ply for hire in central London then there is nothing to prevent them from taking the All London Knowledge and becoming licensed for that area as many suburban drivers have done in the past and continue to do now.

Mary Dowdye

1 December 2008 Head of Standards & Regulations


Didn't someone tell the transport select committee cross border hiring wasnt an issue in London?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Dunno, ask the non taxi driving guy from the Wembley Knowledge School, he has all the answers even though he's never driven a cab in his life.

Well suited really when you think about it, to comment on trade related issues! :D


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