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Certainly .................. your ideal .................... single tier system.

and you think your ideal will be delivered by deregualtion.

The fact is that it hasn't and to be honest it never will be.

B. Lucky

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I would suggest that Mr Flanagan is making statements on behalf of the members of the GMBPDB, Mr Brightonbreezy I don't believe was being used as a vehicle rather as a messenger of the GMBPDB's official line.

I share your concerns about restricting working hours, or should I say how those hours would be calculated.
I cannot therefore agree that the GMBPDB opinion on the subject is workable as any sort of solution ..................... but they do have the right to put forward their opinions in a manner dictated by their membership.

B. Lucky

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Pure specualtion but this thread is about working hours and the only person offering an ideal on working hours is Mr flanagan. I haven't seen any support for his ideal and I also haven't seen any evidence of how he is magically going to reduce working hours while at the same time maintaining the same level of earnings? Is he going to pay drivers the shortfall out of his own deep pockets?

Regards

JD

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I think your right, I think the majority of PH drivers have no inclination to become HC drivers ..................... but that doesn't fit in with the argument to get the minority what they want.

The other thing that doesn't sit kindly with me is no-one should be told what to think, and there are some who will tell you its a good idea to do or ask for something that will only benefit them.

B. Lucky

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But JD when Mr Flanagan speaks he only voices the opinion of the majority of his membership.

I think the argument could be clearer is your request was that the GMBPDB as a whole made up the shortfall rather than just the "leader".

I doubt though that he has deep pockets, although his cardigans are so mis-shaped I doubt he can reach the bottoms of the pockets.

Look I think the issue is something the drivers should control, but stories of 18 hour days have to be sorted out in some way, I'm sure you would agree.

B. Lucky

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certainly

but only if its taken out the hands of LA's and managed by VOSA, with 1 set of rules nationewide

That could be taken care of by removing the alleged self employed status.
and paying the drivers the minimum wage, reducing rentals some are extortionate in some areas of the UK.

We should be trying to get the government to set licence fees as well, to stop some of the councils who insist on charging extortionate licence fees just because they can
It should cost no more than £100, to licence a car and driver for 3 years, or £20 for a drivers badge

On the case of de-restricted areas we in the Borders are lucky in some sense, there are only 8 PH and they are mostly used for school runs, Blood-knock being the exception, so everything else is public hire

Lets try and make 2009 a year of action instead of hot air and lobby your MP until they are sick of hearing from us
It is time for change

VOSA are currently inept.....and who's rules? London's? Liverpool's? Carlisle's?

People seem to cry out for a new system, yet havent the faintest clue where that path might take them...

CC

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If his membership wish to work less hours then no one is stopping them. The only people he represents are his members, right? The other 99.9% of the London private hire trade have the same option to work less hours if they wish. Therefore if the option to work less hours already exists then whats all the fuss about?

Regards

JD

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In a perfect world we would all work sensible hours and earn a decent living. We would be protected from being ripped off by everybody who has a finger in the pie of providing taxis. We'd all be able to drive very nice vehicles which would clean themselves and cost vitually nothing to run and maintain. Our customers would always be nice, polite and tip generously. Oh yes and the sun would shine beautiful everyday. Perfection is impossible.

There is always going to be a difference of opinion and reasons why people promote certain things, that's just human nature.

I am however an advocate of the single tier system. It works well for HC's in my area and can't see why it wouldn't work well in other areas. As I have said before this single tier system would only apply to taxis and not all forms of PH. I personally would still remain on a PH taxis system and would very rarely pick up off the side of the road but I would like to have that option without having to drive what I consider to be a rather ugly, uncomfortable and for what it offers expensive vehicle commonly known as the HC

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I'm still waiting to see the magic formula where less hours equals the same pay.

Regards

JD

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Would it not be easier to insist that Licensing and Enforcement Officers should complete the training provided by NALEO and gain the qualifications before being able to call themselves Licensing or Enforcement Officers.

They want us to prove our professionalism ....................... maybe its time they proved theirs.

B. Lucky

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He expresses the view of the GMB i.e. working too many hours is not safe.

Do you agree with that or not?

As mentioned before, in this thread, I very much doubt the members of the GMB PDB would support a shorter working week, if it meant shorter earnings.

And I doubt Mr F would support it as well, but that doesn't move us off the point that drivers working crazy hours is unsafe.

I may have had my disagreements with Mr F, but at least he is prepared to front up in front of millions of folks on the radio. I'm f***ed if I would.

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Step into the world of toots where anything is possible all you need to do is close your eyes and think about it

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If you notice he's waiting for someone else to come up with a formula ......................... and then he will shoot the author down in flames.

The fact remains that drivers stay out on the road for as long as they have to not as long as they want to.

and we have to look at why 5 years ago drivers were able to make a decent living and now they are struggling like crazy.

The OFT should have given consideration to the impact of their "wreckers charter" they made the same mistakes with busses and now there are only a handful of companies covering the UK and bus fares are going up faster than the subsodies they recieve.

How many of those asking to enter the golden fields of HC ownership are now in the $hit because people as greedy as them shouted they were being unfairly excluded from owning something ON THE BASIS THAT IT HAD BEEN HANDED OUT FREE OF CHARGE MANY YEARS EARLIER.

Look at the problems deregulation has caused ............. the greed of the few aggrieved has spread into the councils ................. everyone thinks taxi drivers are loaded and thats based on the lies they were told by people who wanted to become one.

B. Lucky

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