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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:53 am 
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My last five shifts have been bloody awful. I'm now think of selling razorblades, plastic hose, and rope to the guys sitting on the ranks. I think I would make more money promoting assisted suicides.


Do you offer free demonstrations :lol:

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I would normally ask for audience participation, only I think I would be probably get killed in the crush. :lol: :lol: :lol:


that 7% must be making a diff if you can aford razorblades lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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My last five shifts have been bloody awful. I'm now think of selling razorblades, plastic hose, and rope to the guys sitting on the ranks. I think I would make more money promoting assisted suicides.

I shi* you not, it's that bad. I think the Edinburgh taxi trade has finally caught up with you guys down south. :cry:


I can't help but laugh at this 7% rise though, it make all the difference :roll:



Snap this week has been bad lots of guys either just making there rentals or not in some cases but let’s not kid ourselves on we knew this week and year was going to be poor you just have to get your head down and get on with it as we are not the only trade to be suffering a down turn right now.
Can anyone tell me who the hell Raymond Davidson, secretary of the Edinburgh Taxi Association is never seen nor heard of him never even head of the Edinburgh taxi association its a bit like the Edinburgh private hire association speaks for the trade it so called represents but it never consults the people who are out there doing the job. Been in this game for a while now and have never been approached by any association to ask my views or what i think needs to be done to make the job better and its not as if it hard to get hold of owners/drivers details from the council



Raymond Davidson, is a good guy but no more a representative of the trade than anyone else claiming the same.

You can have the support of a very small minority of taxi drivers/owners and claim to represent the whole trade without any problem as long as you are a properly constituted body. :shock:

At least that's the theory . . . .
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My last five shifts have been bloody awful.


Whatever you have or in this case dont have in terms of trade is pretty much mirrored around the country.

Last night my worst ever Friday night and possibly one of the reasons I do not carry a tow rope - I think I would have used it for something other than towing. I am hoping that once this month is out of the way - jeeze 3 more weeks - then people would have been paid again and perhaps they might get out and about spending.

The one thing that does worry me is that if everyone starts saving and not spending because they are afraid re their jobs, then if that happens because of the scare factor then we are in for a very bad time. I think that this is one of the reasons ( the scare factor ) that the Americans gave everyone $1000 to go out and spend - but as far as I am aware it did not work and they just put it away. If only people realised (those who are working) they are better off financially now than what they were 6 months ago 1) Interest rates at an all time low (speaking to someone last night and her mate is £300 p/m better off on her mortgage) 2) Fuel is way down on the horrendous high 3) Food prices and practically all else is falling 4) and hopefully heating and lighting costs will soon follow - So the bottom line is that money is out there - but how the F*^K do I get hold of it.

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Whatever you have or in this case dont have in terms of trade is pretty much mirrored around the country.

Last night my worst ever Friday night and possibly one of the reasons I do not carry a tow rope - I think I would have used it for something other than towing. I am hoping that once this month is out of the way - jeeze 3 more weeks - then people would have been paid again and perhaps they might get out and about spending.

The one thing that does worry me is that if everyone starts saving and not spending because they are afraid re their jobs, then if that happens because of the scare factor then we are in for a very bad time. I think that this is one of the reasons ( the scare factor ) that the Americans gave everyone $1000 to go out and spend - but as far as I am aware it did not work and they just put it away. If only people realised (those who are working) they are better off financially now than what they were 6 months ago 1) Interest rates at an all time low (speaking to someone last night and her mate is £300 p/m better off on her mortgage) 2) Fuel is way down on the horrendous high 3) Food prices and practically all else is falling 4) and hopefully heating and lighting costs will soon follow - So the bottom line is that money is out there - but how the F*^K do I get hold of it.


I'm inclined to agree with you that trade is dreadful but I don't think that people appreciate being given vat reductions or even the interest rates being all time low what they want is money in their pockets and until then they won't spend. Perhaps the government should have given back the 10% income tax rate that was taken from the poorly paid. IMO if you want people to spend money you have let them keep more of what they earn that is what people can see and that is what will benefit more people and encourage more spending.

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My last five shifts have been bloody awful.


Whatever you have or in this case dont have in terms of trade is pretty much mirrored around the country.

Last night my worst ever Friday night and possibly one of the reasons I do not carry a tow rope - I think I would have used it for something other than towing. I am hoping that once this month is out of the way - jeeze 3 more weeks - then people would have been paid again and perhaps they might get out and about spending.

The one thing that does worry me is that if everyone starts saving and not spending because they are afraid re their jobs, then if that happens because of the scare factor then we are in for a very bad time. I think that this is one of the reasons ( the scare factor ) that the Americans gave everyone $1000 to go out and spend - but as far as I am aware it did not work and they just put it away. If only people realised (those who are working) they are better off financially now than what they were 6 months ago 1) Interest rates at an all time low (speaking to someone last night and her mate is £300 p/m better off on her mortgage) 2) Fuel is way down on the horrendous high 3) Food prices and practically all else is falling 4) and hopefully heating and lighting costs will soon follow - So the bottom line is that money is out there - but how the F*^K do I get hold of it.



Let me tell you something, this is gonna get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better. I had a guy from the Citizens Advice Bureau (CAB) in the the back of my taxi heading to his office in Dundas Street. I asked him how things were going with the recession and all that. He nearly had an apoplexy. He told me that since the Bank bailout, bankruptcies were going through the roof. He reckoned that there was still a huge reservoir of bad debt to be uncovered and that's why the banks won't loan money. People use to save and spend a little save and spend there was a fine balance to the economy. The reason a lot of these businesses are going out the box is simply because their whole existence depended on the availability of credit. People stopped saving almost altogether. They simply depended on their cash flow to secure more and more credit and then credit was used to get even more credit, robbing peter to pay Paul.

The whole thing was an illusion. People were spending on credit like they were hooked on crack cocaine. Now the credit bubble has burst, it's all over.

It could be the end of 2011 before all the bad debt is finaly flushed out of the system. Oh and guess who is going to have to pay it all back? :evil:

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Oh and btw, if you are looking to Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling to sort this mess out you can forget it. They've tried almost everything in their arsenal and not even dented the problem.


We've simply been shafted by the Government, the banks and big business and now everyone knows it. That's the real problem for Gogs and Ali.







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Oh and btw, if you are looking to Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling to sort this mess out you can forget it. They've tried almost everything in their arsenal and not even dented the problem.


We've simply been shafted by the Government, the banks and big business and now everyone knows it. That's the real problem for Gogs and Ali.


:sad:


Its time they called a General election, Im not saying things will be any better under the Tories but I cant see it being any worse either..if nothing else it would give us all a welcome diversion from the deep Doodah we're all in...


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Oh and btw, if you are looking to Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling to sort this mess out you can forget it. They've tried almost everything in their arsenal and not even dented the problem.


We've simply been shafted by the Government, the banks and big business and now everyone knows it. That's the real problem for Gogs and Ali.


:sad:


Its time they called a General election, Im not saying things will be any better under the Tories but I cant see it being any worse either..if nothing else it would give us all a welcome diversion from the deep Doodah we're all in...


The only thing that stops civil unrest is hope for the future. Obama, has given America hope. If anything happens to Obama, America will come apart at the seams.


In Britain hope is in a downward spiral, along with the economy, and what's more the public know they've been shafted by the Government, banks and big business, and now it's the public who are being forced to pay for it.


The British Government could have a serious problem in the very near future - when people have no hope things can get nasty.

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I do not know if we are all panicking or overly concerned but although my takings were well down for a normal week end by 25%, Saturday night was to a degree encouraging.

It started off very very slow infact a worse start than Friday night, but got better as the night went on. You could actually see the numbers on the streets were up on the previous night, the reason that I am writing this is because most of the night trade is party animals usually the type without a care in the world or bills for that matter. So I will put this loosely - are we to a degree on nights recession proof, will we suffer as much as we think we might!

The mortgage interest rates have not completely kicked in with more still to come off, shops are nearly giving stuff away, fuel seems to have stabilised and as mentioned before gas and electric are still to come down - so there is going to be money out there.

I see a situation whereby Sunday to Thursday and maybe the odd Friday will be a bit quieter, but Saturday will be quite normal, after all what is the point in working all week if you cannot afford to go out and let your hair down.

No its not going to be great but I think overall those who can Taxi ! will survive.

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No its not going to be great but I think overall those who can Taxi ! will survive.

It will defo sort the men from the boys, but I'm of the opinion it will sort a few of the men out as well.

Personally I think the Monday to Thursday night time trade will suffer the most. Days at present seem to be hanging on in there. [-o<

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I'm still of the opinion that if the government really wanted the people to have money to spend they would have done something within the tax system. They were quite happy to take the 10% tax rate from the poor but not so keen to give it back. All the measures so far have been aimed it the middle class and above. It is usually the poorer working class people who spend their money to enjoy themselves in the short term which is what the government and the local businesses need. Until those who like to spend instead of save actually have the money to spend I can't see there being much difference in things. You can be opitimistic though because all those that are persisitantly on the dole are still going out and that by all accounts hasn't changed.

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I think everyones jumping on the January / February depression bandwagon here.

Before the 'boom years' from 1994'ish onwards, January was always like this, as in crap with a capital C.

Come March / April things will start to get busier, not as busy as the last few years have been, but enough to tide us all through the next couple of years.

Folks have got too used to being busy all year round, welcome to reality! :D


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Oh and btw, if you are looking to Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling to sort this mess out you can forget it. They've tried almost everything in their arsenal and not even dented the problem.


We've simply been shafted by the Government, the banks and big business and now everyone knows it. That's the real problem for Gogs and Ali.


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do you want em back then?

swap em for our goalposts?


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Definitely going to be harder over the next couple of years, more potatoes and veg will have to be planted by the Mrs.... and pay out as little as possible.... :oops:

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Definitely going to be harder over the next couple of years, more potatoes and veg will have to be planted by the Mrs.... and pay out as little as possible.... :oops:


Perhaps if we all dress like your avatar business will pick up quicker :wink:

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