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St Albans drivers given green light to break the law

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AN OFFICIAL at St Albans District Council has encouraged taxi drivers to break the laws he is supposed to enforce, putting the public at risk by contravening insurance rules, according to the leader of one of Britain's biggest trade unions, who has called for resignations.

Paul Kenny, general secretary of the GMB, the fourth biggest union in the country, said: "The GMB is stunned at the behaviour of the licensing official of St Albans Council whose job it is to ensure that the public is protected against cowboys who are prepared to ignore the laws that exist to protect people.

"That the same official is prepared to conspire to break those very laws is beyond belief.

"Heads should role and St Albans councillors should make sure any of their colleagues found to be complicit in this matter resign too."

His attack has been joined by the Lib Dem -controlled authority's opposition leaders, who agree that a tape recording made during a taxi strike on October 3 clearly shows the official advising a private hire driver to pick up passengers without a prior booking.

This would be in clear contravention of rules which allow Hackney cab drivers only, not private hire drivers, to pick up without bookings, and according to the union would invalidate insurance policies.

The union says that during the strike, sparked by a dispute over stricter licence rules the council wants to introduce, Hackney cab drivers learned that officials, determined to minimise its impact, were advising their private hire competitors to ignore the rule book.

Adopting the pseudonym “Irfan”, a driver called a licensing officer's mobile phone and recorded the conversation. On the tape, the official, who clearly believes he is talking to a private- hire driver, is asked: “Is it possible I can go and pick up from the rank, OK?”

He replies: “The only person that would take any action against you would be me. Yeah?

“And I am giving you permission to do it , so it is fine.”

The GMB has made an official complaint through the Local Government Ombudsman, but according to the head of licensing Andrew Robertson, the official was simply advising “Irfan” he could pick up from a taxi rank if he had previously arranged to meet a passenger there.

But on the GMB's transcript, which the council agrees is accurate, there is no mention of pre-booking as Irfan is told: “If any private hirers use the rank then it is fine.”

Mr Robertson and Councillor Chris Brazier, the cabinet member responsible, have refused to acknowledge the tape is evidence of anything improper – a line maintained in the authority's response to the official complaint.

Tory group leader Julian Daley told the Review: "The council should not be encouraging private hire drivers to break the terms of their licence and the law.

"It sounds like that is exactly what they are doing.

"And it is wrong for senior officers and politicians to try and sweep this under the carpet, as they appear to be doing."

Labour leader Roma Mills said: "The tape does appear to be saying that anybody can pick up from a taxi rank.

"The GMB say that is a criminal matter to pick up somebody and drive uninsured.

"If so, it is a very serious matter.

"The council's explanation doesn't seem very likely at all."

Councillor Chris Brazier, the responsible cabinet member, said: "I don't think the official was doing anything wrong.

"For that night only , for the safety of the public, the decision was made to allow private-hire drivers to pick up from the ranks if a passenger had pre-booked.,p> Terance Flanagan, secretary of the local GMB branch, said: "The council's actions have been deplorable."

The union will ask the Ombudsman for a full investigation, and Councillor Daley will confront Councillor Brazier over the tape in next week's full council meeting.

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Do you think the public gallery will be full?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:47 pm 
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Councillor Chris Brazier, the responsible cabinet member, said: "I don't think the official was doing anything wrong.

"For that night only , for the safety of the public, the decision was made to allow private-hire drivers to pick up from the ranks if a passenger had pre-booked"

He doesn't think the official was doing anything wrong !!!!!! Well take it from me it is and always will be.

Advising, for one day only, that PH could help clear the ranks makes that particular LO complicit. And now they are trying to sweep it all under the carpet.

Absolutely disgraceful. [-X

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How's the strike going? Are the workers receiving strike pay?

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captain cab wrote:
How's the strike going? Are the workers receiving strike pay?

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They all receive extra for working on Xmas and Boxing day. :wink:

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This LO was rather silly advising private hire drivers to break the law but I doubt there will be council retribution for his indiscretion. However if the tape is ever published it will always remain an embarrasment.

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This LO was rather silly advising private hire drivers to break the law but I doubt there will be council retribution for his indiscretion. However if the tape is ever published it will always remain an embarrasment.

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Some might suggest the union was ill advised to endorse strike action?

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Some might suggest the union was ill advised to endorse strike action?

If drivers don't want to go on strike, then they don't have too. Just vote for an alternative option.

But this issue is all about a licensing officer who called the drivers bluff (when they said they would strike), and then tried to get PH to bail him out.

Some would call someone like that an utter ****. :shock:

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Is it any wonder with idiots like him on the council that the PH can get away with anything
Regardless of the taped phone call he has put every one who got into a PH illegally at risk as they would not be insured
He should be shown the door without any gratuity payments


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