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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:34 am 
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The qualification is now compulsory in Sefton.... but only as long as funding is available... :wink: that reminds me I am back tomorrow... with a few questions... :wink:


But if errm Liverpool introduce a qualification (outside of being able to speak and read in scouse) will it be the same one and will your qualification save you doing a new course?

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Liverpool are already teaching the NVQ it's just not compulsory... what would be rather funny would be if they insist that the only drivers to do their schoolwork had to have it, Delta would qualify , but would the Liverpool Hackney's

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MR T wrote:
The qualification is now compulsory in Sefton.... but only as long as funding is available... :wink: that reminds me I am back tomorrow... with a few questions... :wink:


Ask him what he knows about cross border hiring?

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The qualification is now compulsory in Sefton.... but only as long as funding is available... :wink: that reminds me I am back tomorrow... with a few questions... :wink:


Ask him what he knows about cross border hiring?

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I already know what his answer would be ..F..All

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I am not saying the course does not have some merit especially for new drivers but at the moment it seems to be concentrating on communication skills with the general public and how not have to fall foul of the PC brigade regarding the disabled and their rights. PS... I now know how to read a map. :lol:

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The qualification is now compulsory in Sefton.... but only as long as funding is available... :wink: that reminds me I am back tomorrow... with a few questions... :wink:


Ask him what he knows about cross border hiring?

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And get it on video so we can watch his head explode :lol:

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I have to say that people should get properly informed of the qualifications, instead of following the short cut, high volume route taken by many.

Lets do a quick explanation.

VRQ Level 2, often refered to as the BTEC.

This is a "entry level" qualification, VRQ stands for Vocational Related Qulaification.

This is an introduction to the industry and should be undertaken by people who's only experience is booking and riding HC or PH vehicles.
It is a very basic course, but important as it provides "under pinning knowledge" and should explain the differences between HC and PH.


NVQ Level 2, this is the ONLY course that is funded by the Learning and Skills Council (LSC) with the funding coming through the Train 2 Gain route.

This qualification can only be undertaken by people involved in the industry.

There are different routes to award and these are dependant on the type of licence held or different type of work. I say this because the route to award for a chauffeur is different than that for a PH driver and a HC driver and for a Community Transport vehicle driver etc etc etc.



Some private training providers want to classify everyone as the same because it means they can prepare everyone the same way, this means they think they can get away with putting a large number of people in the same room and get as much money in as they possibly can.

The NVQ should be individual to each candidate, that candidate should come first, unfortunatley people want to make as much money in as short a period of time as they possibly can ..................... this is so they can desimate the "taxi" gravey train and jump onto the next goverment initiative when it comes up.

More redundancies lead to more re-training and more government money, they want you done quickly with no regard for anything other than profit.

USE YOUR LOCAL COLLEGE'S AND INSIST ON YOUR NEEDS BEING MET.

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The problem here is that private training companies are making a shedload of money without offering added value, indeed I believe that some are now offering 2 NVQ's to candidates because the government has recently allowed funding for second level 2 qualifications ............... thats twice the money for the same amount of work.


How do you mean level 2 qualification I thought the NVQ for passenger transport for hackney/private hire was already level 2 or have I misunderstood what you're saying and having yet another blonde moment :?

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The problem here is that private training companies are making a shedload of money without offering added value, indeed I believe that some are now offering 2 NVQ's to candidates because the government has recently allowed funding for second level 2 qualifications ............... thats twice the money for the same amount of work.


How do you mean level 2 qualification I thought the NVQ for passenger transport for hackney/private hire was already level 2 or have I misunderstood what you're saying and having yet another blonde moment :?


Sorry toots,

Originally the government would pay for anyone to obtain a NVQ Level 2 qualification.

Take up was so good that they have decided to further fund a second NVQ Level 2 for everyone.

What some training companies are doing is enroling you on the Road Passenger Vehicle Driving NVQ (the taxi PH one) and also on another NVQ (lets say Customer Service).

If they "train" in the classroom they are delivering both at the same time, giving you two qualifications and getting 2 lots of funding.

I hope that makes it clearer.

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Thanks it does, but, customer service is covered in the first NVQ so as you say it is clearly a scam. I always recommend (as you did) that candidates go through a college as these are offering a far better service than the other training providers.

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I was taught two new things yesterday...1,, that all councils across the country must have a proportion of wheelchair accessible vehicles and that is law..DDA..Act...2 private hire drivers must hand in any articles found in their vehicles to the company....? :lol:

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I was taught two new things yesterday...1,, that all councils across the country must have a proportion of wheelchair accessible vehicles and that is law..DDA..Act...2 private hire drivers must hand in any articles found in their vehicles to the company....? :lol:


At what stage are you going to complain that they are teaching b*llocks?

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I was taught two new things yesterday...1,, that all councils across the country must have a proportion of wheelchair accessible vehicles and that is law..DDA..Act...2 private hire drivers must hand in any articles found in their vehicles to the company....? :lol:


At what stage are you going to complain that they are teaching b*llocks?

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Whilst I appreciate that this appears a waste of time for experienced drivers it is probably quite useful for the newer drivers. Perhaps them in the education system should have consulted those in the taxi system to come up with a more interesting and challenging course

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Whilst I appreciate that this appears a waste of time for experienced drivers it is probably quite useful for the newer drivers. Perhaps them in the education system should have consulted those in the taxi system to come up with a more interesting and challenging course


I think you're partially right toots.

What MrT describes as being taught is incorrect though, we had a company come to our area to teach drivers and owners how to do the job.

After one week WAV drivers were refusing to carry out WAV work because the instructor told them b*llocks about electric wheelchairs not going into licensed vehicles.

The problem is the training has been taken over by training companies, they aint interested in the taxi driver or taxi passenger, they are interested in the £1500 PER DRIVER they get for doing the course.

The taxi trade should and could come up with its own course, but it wont, because it prefers to sit back and accept this kind of sh*t.

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Whilst I appreciate that this appears a waste of time for experienced drivers it is probably quite useful for the newer drivers. Perhaps them in the education system should have consulted those in the taxi system to come up with a more interesting and challenging course


I think you're partially right toots.

What MrT describes as being taught is incorrect though, we had a company come to our area to teach drivers and owners how to do the job.

After one week WAV drivers were refusing to carry out WAV work because the instructor told them b*llocks about electric wheelchairs not going into licensed vehicles.

The problem is the training has been taken over by training companies, they aint interested in the taxi driver or taxi passenger, they are interested in the £1500 PER DRIVER they get for doing the course.

The taxi trade should and could come up with its own course, but it wont, because it prefers to sit back and accept this kind of sh*t.

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These courses are available at reputable colleges if drivers insisted on going to the college courses then perhaps the free loading training companies would......................... let me think what would the companies do........ oh I know pay a college for the rental of a room. That's not going to work is it.

Seriously though if the taxi trade is not happy with the content of the course then they should do something about it instead they'll wait for few years then bleat on about how useless the course was

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