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I suppose we have to live with the fact that private parking facilities at some establishments are being used as a tool in which to generate revenue from the Taxi and private hire industry. The difference between the Railways and Airports is that they can set their own bye laws which are legally enforceable, Supermarkets and places of entertainment do not have that luxury. They can ask you to leave if you are not on legitimate business but I suppose you could always offer the excuse that you are picking up a pre-booked fare.

In order to eject you they would have to get the police, or perhaps in the extreme clamp your vehicle. Clamping a public hire vehicle in the execution of his duty would be a good court case would it not lol

I have always been against permits of any kind but in some instances, in order for Taxis and mainly Private hire companies to generate work for their drivers they have had to agree terms with a particular outlet.

The terms of such contracts may not even involve money changing hands. The assurance of a freephone for its customers and a priority service is sometimes good enough to seal a contract.

Best wishes

John Davies.

I suppose we have to live with the fact that private parking facilities at some establishments are being used as a tool in which to generate revenue from the Taxi and private hire industry. The difference between the Railways and Airports is that they can set their own bye laws which are legally enforceable, Supermarkets and places of entertainment do not have that luxury. They can ask you to leave if you are not on legitimate business but I suppose you could always offer the excuse that you are picking up a pre-booked fare.

In order to eject you they would have to get the police, or perhaps in the extreme clamp your vehicle. Clamping a public hire vehicle in the execution of his duty would be a good court case would it not lol

I have always been against permits of any kind but in some instances, in order for Taxis and mainly Private hire companies to generate work for their drivers they have had to agree terms with a particular outlet.

The terms of such contracts may not even involve money changing hands. The assurance of a freephone for its customers and a priority service is sometimes good enough to seal a contract.

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But now we have middlemen selling free-phone contracts, acting as agents between supermarkets etc and taxi companies another snout in the trough, they are in it for the money not the love of taxis.
All these things have to be paid for and who is at the end of this line, the customer, has anyone asked them how they feel about higher fares, surcharges etc to cover these costs. Do they prefer a freephone and then a booking fee charged by the taxi or a taxi rank and no booking fees. More advertising, more freephones, more permit fees; who benefits, not the customer he is paying for it, not the taxi driver he's working harder for less.

It's due to a large chunck of the taxi trade not being able to meet phone demand, and the complete inflexibility to adapt to today's customer's needs, which has led to the significant increase in the number of PH.

You will find in areas that are de-limited and non-mandatory, PH are in the minority. Why because they are not needed.

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IDFIMH

Do you have any facts available to support your assertion, please?

A H/C can park up anywhere and ply for hire, please correct me if I'm wrong?

I expect you will find the exact data on the DfT Stats site.

But I would have thought it obvious that in an area where you don't have compulsory WAVs, and it's non-quotas, then there isn't really much point in driving a PH.

Unless perhaps PH don't do a knowledge.

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IDFIMH

Wrong

Correct me please

About a dozen years ago Dundee was around 800 HC and zilch PH.

Gateshead Angel might be able to answer that one. why not ask your licensing enforcement officer? See how bright he is. Anyway, I thought all you union guys new Taxi law back to front.

duthihell Mick know taxi law? dont make me laugh

though Nige has been told he can ply anywhere by his LO to stop him yelling for more ranks.

by the way Slipper of the yard its knew not new, you are in England now not Wales.

Yes Nidge you are right, a HC is available for hire when he has no passenger in his vehicle providing he is within the boundries of his owm borough.

With regard parking up anywhere, he can, providing he is parking in a safe area in which he is legally allowed to park in accordance with traffic law and that area is within his own borough.

B. Lucky

Unfortunatly not mate. We are just taxi drivers who are willing to represent the requests of the branch members.

On any points of Law the T&G does have experts we can get information from should we need it.

Knowing what the Law says as well as knowing what the Law means are sometimes two different things, its better to leave those things to the experts.

B. Lucky

Is this the Law according to Gateshead Angel?

Which act states a Hackney carriage can "stand" and ply for hire on any public street or highway other than one which has a designated Taxi Stand? Don't confuse plying for hire when in motion with forming an illegal Taxi rank at a place which is not designated as a Taxi rank by the commissioner or licensing body.

What does the law say about Hackney carriages immediately returning to a prescribed Hackney carriage stand?

How can you fully represent your members if you don't know the rules of your trade? Don't you and your members have to have a copy of the by-laws in the cab at all times? Are you not supposed to familiarise yourself with those by laws. I admire your effort at representing others but in order to give them good representation don't you think you should be leading from the front?