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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:16 pm 
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there was also private investigation paid for by the trade they also found phc to be picking up illegally is this becoming common practice.


Have the people been in front of a committee?

If the police did it, why havent they had the obligatory no insurance thing?

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The police have told us there is an agreement with the fiscals office that the council should deal with this.as you know they cannot give out penalty points.We have had the fiscal say there is no such agreement. And that any one caught driving without proper insurance would be prosecuted honestly i am not winding you up


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why would a PH driver on a circuit need to know a hirers details if the land had a PH office on it.........

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You would have to see this yard to believe it. also the phc are all silver with a number going across the front and back doors there can be up to 30 phc sitting in at any one time.the official rank is less than 10yards away.


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why would a PH driver on a circuit need to know a hirers details if the land had a PH office on it........there is no office on the land.


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wannabeeahack wrote:
why would a PH driver on a circuit need to know a hirers details if the land had a PH office on it.........


I cant believe you actually wrote that.

Mind you, I like the following video :wink:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=afyyOsbFnCU

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If you look up Scottish law, you will find there is no private land in Scotland
And that applies to the club in Dundee where 203020 are up to there old tricks.
If you read your licence book, under PH you will also see that they are not allowed to pick up without a booking exactly the same wording and everything else as the English PH rules


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Thank you all i am going to soldier on


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in any other city there would be simple solution here,the police watch a puntter walk right out the nighclub or from the takeaways nearby into a ph cab, the ask the driver for the customers name driver replys (dont know) officer asks show me details of the booking ,driver replys (i have none) driver is charged with driving without insurance,but this is dundee and this is dph,they have got away with far to much for to long(rank on local bus station with a sign saying taxi rank and davie young ushering bus passengers into the phv,s/plus the hack plates which weren,t returned for over a year just to mention 2 incidents)dundee council have no interest in this and the recent police clampdown on phv,s picking up on the steet shows they feel the same,maybe its time to take our issues to the scottish parliment,if we all drove through to edinburgh on the same day and handed in a petition we might get listened to


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I take it this is the PH operation next to Fat Sam's?

Ownership of the land is irrelevant. The CGSA 1982 refers to "a public place". A public place is any place to which the public have access. If the public freely walk into the yard, it's a public place.

If a contract is in force between the PH company and a nightclub, the nightclub would be paying for the cars, not the patrons.
Also, how do they know that anyone strolling into the yard has come from the nightclub?

Sounds to me that blind eyes, rolled up trouser legs or maybe Smith envelopes are the only thing allowing this operation to continue.

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Wise old bird our gusmac, he speaks a lot of sense.

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wannabeeahack wrote:
why would a PH driver on a circuit need to know a hirers details if the land had a PH office on it.........


I cant believe you actually wrote that.


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well i did

punter......office........can i have a cab....name?.....car to office please.....

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just read my PH ops licence...

Record of Hiring
Before each journey is commenced the following details must be reorded in the book:-

a) time and date of booking made
b) method of booking (in person, by telephone or fax, etc)


in person would be how exactly?

also:-

k) whether the booking was sub-contracted, if so, the name of the sub-contractor, thier LA, and the ops licence name and number...

how curious.......and they do invoke the 1976 act as applicable

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wannabeeahack wrote:
just read my PH ops licence...

Record of Hiring
Before each journey is commenced the following details must be reorded in the book:-

a) time and date of booking made
b) method of booking (in person, by telephone or fax, etc)


in person would be how exactly?

also:-

k) whether the booking was sub-contracted, if so, the name of the sub-contractor, thier LA, and the ops licence name and number...

how curious.......and they do invoke the 1976 act as applicable


1976 act doesn't apply to Scotland.
The Relevant law is 1982 CGSA.

Alex, can we move this thread to the Scottish section, to avoid confusion?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
just read my PH ops licence...

Record of Hiring
Before each journey is commenced the following details must be reorded in the book:-

a) time and date of booking made
b) method of booking (in person, by telephone or fax, etc)


in person would be how exactly?

also:-

k) whether the booking was sub-contracted, if so, the name of the sub-contractor, thier LA, and the ops licence name and number...

how curious.......and they do invoke the 1976 act as applicable


That is an interesting thing! Are your LA saying that it is ok to sub-contract jobs to operators from outside your area?

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