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So what is the point of insisting on a WAV under 3 years old? What stops them selling it and substituting a saloon anyway?
Seems like just another financial barrier to new holders.

I notice you didn't comment on the other point.

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The council insisted on wheelchair accessible vehicles not the trade..... there are many people who do not wish to own a car or a hackney..... and are more than happy to rent.... you always conveniently forget about them.....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Not so. I offer them the choice to rent or own........you do not.

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yes I do.... they can buy a licence..... your system makes them worthless

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Your system is corrupt and abhorrent. It serves only you and those like you.
It is feudal and has no place in the 21st century. The quicker it is gone, the better.

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Well it's been nice speaking to you gusmac... it has reminded me of the old-time union practice of a closed shop..... you can't get a job unless you're in the union... and you can't be in the union unless you're one of the boy's.... and thankfully that has gone....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

There are PH companies in Sefton that have the option to rent vehicles, to buy vehicles on HP or be owner drivers. How much choice do you want. With regard to HC I'm sure there are just as many options in Sefton as there are in lots of places and that is to be an owner driver (out right), buy on HP, rent on full or half collar or share. I don't agree that if an area is regulated the council should be complicete in creating so called 'taxi barons' in fact they should actively discourage such things.



never a truer word said. I wish we here could persuade our council that they had made an error when they de-regulated over 50% of the so called public hire vehicles now work private hire systems cos there isn't work for them.

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PH numbers are derestricted everywhere, toots. That's not the issue.



HC ownership is only possible if you buy in at a vastly inflated price, or win the council's lucky plate lottery.
Limited opportunities for owner drivership + easy availability of drivers = Inflated rentals + high resale value of existing plates.
It's basic supply and demand.

By moving the numbers restriction from HC cabs to HC drivers, you can still control the amount of HC cabs on the road. The difference is control moves from the multi owners to the owner driver. Plate barons' collections of plates become - as Mr T said - worthless. The HC drivers' licences are the sought after commodity.
The difference is these can't be sold or rented out - and, of course, nobody can hold more than one for any area.


This is unavoidable if a council restrict HC licences.
The harder they are to get, the more they are worth.



This is exactly what they want you to believe. It's a complete red herring.
If it is true, why has this not happened in London?
Because it is much harder to get an HC driver's licence in London. The knowledge of London exam takes care of that.
If your council had set high standards of entry for HC drivers, you wouldn't have 2800 HC's, simply because there would be nowhere near that many licenced drivers to drive them.
Mr T and his cartel friends know this but aren't interested in promoting such a policy. Why would they? It's their golden goose they would be slaughtering, after all.

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The talk of cartels seem apt....from memory there are more PH cartels than there are HC........and they make a lot more money.

CC

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Yes and they are illegal

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Yeah I know it was just a comment




That's cos they allow them to be sold and transferred IMO they shouldn't. It should never be the case that a plate can be sold or transferred unless the transfer is to a newer vehicle by the same holder of that plate for his/her own vehicle





It's not a complete redherring it is completely conceivable as that is what has happened here. They de-regulated and loads of drivers went onto HC there isn't enough work for them even after all these years so now they are on the PH systems. I don't need convincing of this fact I work with it every week and have done for a considerable time. The HC work all the early evening work when it's quiet on the road but as soon as it gets busy then the bog off leaving us the scraps it does my head in.





Not if it is illegal to sell them or be transferred as I said earlier. They will always belong to the council. Apart from which if you can only drive one vehicle then you only need one plate therefore the council shouldn't be issuing more plates to the same person



That is another matter all together and is probably the biggest thorn in my side. I'm all for making money but greed is the ugliest thing I have ever had the misfortune to witness

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I believe it. This is what happens when a council just lifts number restrictions on vehicles and leaves the rest to it's own devices. That's where your council went wrong.
No control = A free for all. That's not what anyone wants.

As I said earlier:




Keep the number of HC drivers to a managable level and this problem is avoided.
You also have the bonus that those who do achieve their HC badges have done so by effort, commitment and hard work. This guarantees a higher standard of HC driver.

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I spoke to a union rep about the standards for taxi driving and said they were not even remotely tough enough and he said ' well you can't make tests to difficult and put artifical obstacles in the way'. Myself personally believe whether you are driving PH or HC taxis you should have a tough test. PH taxis should not be the option for the illiterate or those that can't be bothered to make a proper commitment to their chosen vocation. IMO a taxis is a taxi regardless of how they obtain their work. There should changes made to law bringing it into single tier regulations with mixed fleet oportunities.

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That's his opinion. A tough test has worked in London for countless years.
It works quite well here as well, though some of us think it could be made harder. I believe decent standards and a professional image will benefit all of us in the long run.



I agree, but that's a debate for another day....

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well all the views seem to be what is best for the driver.... the customer is never mentioned... and that is why you are in the position that you are in...... and will probably stay in.....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!