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There isn't a council with 100% WAV fleet is there because all councils have PH and they aren't WAV well most of them aren't. I personally don't like them so I cannot be alone in this surely there must be others who don't like to travel in them, there has to be a happy medium for everybody

There is no way this government or any other government will insist on a 100% PH WAV policy. Anyone who suggest this is scaremongering.

It will not happen.


I am sorry Mr Sussex.... but speaking for myself and considering we only have nine weeks to reply to this final consultation I personally am not going to ignore it. just for the sake of stating my view.


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What is the problem under consideration? Why is government intervention necessary?
This impact assessment relates to the need to improve access to licensed taxis to improve equality of opportunity for disabled people. Recently, a number of local authorities have implemented an accessible taxi policy. However, many authorities have not done so and, at the time of writing, only around 50 per cent of the national licensed taxi parc could be described as being wheelchair accessible. In one-third of taxi licencing authorities, less than 10 per cent of taxis are wheelchair accessible, whilst 16 authorities have none at all. Accessibility levels for other disabled people vary greatly.
What are the policy objectives and the intended effects?
The objective of this policy is to improve access to taxis in the GB taxi fleet, in line with the overarching objectives of the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) and Government commitments to improve access to jobs, services and social networks. Recent court cases have highlighted the contestability of local authority policies that require a proportion of a taxi fleet to be wheelchair accessible. Therefore, the effect of any regulation in this area, using powers in the DDA, would be to require compliance with accessibility standard for the whole taxi fleet in a licencing authority area

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I don't believe they should require that all HC/PH be WAV's. This simply would alianate other disabled users who can't get into WAV's. I don't know what the solution is but I do know that the solution is not 100% WAV across the board. How they will decide who has to be WAV and who doesn't is beyond me. I do believe we have to make our voices heard and not be ignored in this consultation

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I don't believe they should require that all HC/PH be WAV's. This simply would alianate other disabled users who can't get into WAV's. I don't know what the solution is but I do know that the solution is not 100% WAV across the board. How they will decide who has to be WAV and who doesn't is beyond me. I do believe we have to make our voices heard and not be ignored in this consultation
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Well said sister toots :wink:


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Replies should really be individually crafted from a skeleton draft. If loads of replies are received that all look the same, they are obviously the work of one person.

Seperately written comments will have a much greater effect, IMHO.

If someone would be kind enough to highlight all the points that need to be raised along with suggested recipient(s), it would give us a head start to sing from the same hymn sheet, albeit to a different tune!!!


Individual replies are fine.. any replies are great... the uniform reply from all over the country gives the impression that the trade is prepared to fight back, and more importantly are becoming organised. now that is something they don't like

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MR T wrote:
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Replies should really be individually crafted from a skeleton draft. If loads of replies are received that all look the same, they are obviously the work of one person.

Seperately written comments will have a much greater effect, IMHO.

If someone would be kind enough to highlight all the points that need to be raised along with suggested recipient(s), it would give us a head start to sing from the same hymn sheet, albeit to a different tune!!!


Individual replies are fine.. any replies are great... the uniform reply from all over the country gives the impression that the trade is prepared to fight back, and more importantly are becoming organised. now that is something they don't like


Im with you on this one MR T...only through Unity and Uniformity will these people listen....

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bloodnock wrote:
MR T wrote:
cabbyman wrote:
Replies should really be individually crafted from a skeleton draft. If loads of replies are received that all look the same, they are obviously the work of one person.

Seperately written comments will have a much greater effect, IMHO.

If someone would be kind enough to highlight all the points that need to be raised along with suggested recipient(s), it would give us a head start to sing from the same hymn sheet, albeit to a different tune!!!


Individual replies are fine.. any replies are great... the uniform reply from all over the country gives the impression that the trade is prepared to fight back, and more importantly are becoming organised. now that is something they don't like


Im with you on this one MR T...only through Unity and Uniformity will these people listen....

Imho :?
I nearly forgot... replies need to be held back until just before the end...look at your pm

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bloodnock wrote:
MR T wrote:
cabbyman wrote:
Replies should really be individually crafted from a skeleton draft. If loads of replies are received that all look the same, they are obviously the work of one person.

Seperately written comments will have a much greater effect, IMHO.

If someone would be kind enough to highlight all the points that need to be raised along with suggested recipient(s), it would give us a head start to sing from the same hymn sheet, albeit to a different tune!!!


Individual replies are fine.. any replies are great... the uniform reply from all over the country gives the impression that the trade is prepared to fight back, and more importantly are becoming organised. now that is something they don't like


Im with you on this one MR T...only through Unity and Uniformity will these people listen....

Imho :?
I nearly forgot... replies need to be held back until just before the end...look at your pm


Had to think hard there....pm..DOH...


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1.13 The DfT will be arranging a number of consultation seminars during the consultation period, where those affected by the consultation will have an opportunity to voice their opinions directly to the Department. Please check the DfT website for details.


Will there be any union reps going to these seminars?

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I am sorry Mr Sussex.... but speaking for myself and considering we only have nine weeks to reply to this final consultation I personally am not going to ignore it. just for the sake of stating my view.

I'm not asking anyone to ignore anything, just saying a 100% PH WAV fleet will never happen.

Clearly folks should object to what they want, but it would also be good if they gave some proposals at the same time.

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I don't believe they should require that all HC/PH be WAV's. This simply would alianate other disabled users who can't get into WAV's. I don't know what the solution is but I do know that the solution is not 100% WAV across the board. How they will decide who has to be WAV and who doesn't is beyond me. I do believe we have to make our voices heard and not be ignored in this consultation

How do the disabled folks of London, Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool, Edinburgh, Glasgow etc etc manage to get buy with a 100% HC WAV fleet? :?

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bloodnock wrote:
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cabbyman wrote:
Replies should really be individually crafted from a skeleton draft. If loads of replies are received that all look the same, they are obviously the work of one person.

Seperately written comments will have a much greater effect, IMHO.

If someone would be kind enough to highlight all the points that need to be raised along with suggested recipient(s), it would give us a head start to sing from the same hymn sheet, albeit to a different tune!!!


Individual replies are fine.. any replies are great... the uniform reply from all over the country gives the impression that the trade is prepared to fight back, and more importantly are becoming organised. now that is something they don't like


Im with you on this one MR T...only through Unity and Uniformity will these people listen....

Imho :?


"Unity and Uniformity" is a phrase you'd best avoid....

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If you want to avoid a united, uniform, 100% WAV fleet?

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Sussex wrote:
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I don't believe they should require that all HC/PH be WAV's. This simply would alianate other disabled users who can't get into WAV's. I don't know what the solution is but I do know that the solution is not 100% WAV across the board. How they will decide who has to be WAV and who doesn't is beyond me. I do believe we have to make our voices heard and not be ignored in this consultation

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How do the disabled folks of London, Manchester, Birmingham, Liverpool, Edinburgh, Glasgow etc etc manage to get buy with a 100% HC WAV fleet? :?


They use the PH instead


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