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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:18 pm 
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As for the NTA the members voted against joining at the last AGM


That is of course their choice and one I respect, unfortunately, I don't believe its the right decision and perhaps if the government get their way and you are all driving WAV's, one that they will ultimately regret?

Perhaps, if we allow the national bodies to wither and die then we will see the end of numbers control, then all those PH's you see illegally plying can do it legally?

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YOU SHOULD COME TO LEEDS ON A FRIDAY & SATURDAY NIGHT TO SEE THESE GOOD GUYS AT WORK MR HILDRETH ](*,)

So are you saying that every PH in Leeds is operating illegally at weekends? :?

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YOU SHOULD COME TO LEEDS ON A FRIDAY & SATURDAY NIGHT TO SEE THESE GOOD GUYS AT WORK MR HILDRETH ](*,)

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So are you saying that every PH in Leeds is operating illegally at weekends?
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Not only at weekends but every fecking day of the week, ilegal pick ups all the time
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Leave the good guys alone

Published Date: 28 January 2009
RE the age rule change for private hire vehicles. It's plain stupid.
Can I, on behalf of the GMB licensed drivers section, add our full support to the Leeds private hire drivers fighting the proposed changes to their vehicle age limits?

A number of concerns arise out of the article in your paper that appears to show that Leeds licensing authority don't quite know what they are doing.

Firstly, it's the complete lack of consultation with the drivers. As the council has deemed them "fit and proper" to drive a licensed vehicle, it's strange that they don't view them as being "fit and proper" to be fully consulted on their livelihoods.

Secondly, by proposing these changes Leeds council are going against the recent best practice guidance issued by the Government.

In it, the Government are quite clear and correct when they tell councils such as Leeds that: "It is perfectly possible for an older vehicle to be in good condition. So the setting of an age limit beyond which a local authority will not license vehicles may be arbitrary and inappropriate."

But perhaps the most telling part relating to these proposals is that it is a clear admission by Licensing Leeds that they are not fit to do the job they are paid for.

If there are so many dangerous licensed vehicles driving around the city of Leeds, then why isn't the council prosecuting those drivers and owners? In other words, go after the bad guys and leave the good guys alone.

Michael Hildreth, GMB National (Provincial) Private Hire and Taxi Secretary

YOU SHOULD COME TO LEEDS ON A FRIDAY & SATURDAY NIGHT TO SEE THESE GOOD GUYS AT WORK MR HILDRETH ](*,)


Dear Mr APH,

As I said in my letter to the newspaper, it is our opinion that Leeds Licensing Department are not doing their job. If you have issues I would suggest you contact said licensing department and report illegal issues.

We will support our membership, however, you cannot defend the indefensable.

I would also suggest that you guys reconsidor your decision not to belong to a National Taxi body, I have found that licensing authorities and Nat Gov respond better to a National Organisation, in comparision to a local Association due to the financial and in the case of the GMB PDB Political influence National body's have.

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So are you saying that every PH in Leeds is operating illegally at weekends? :?

No not all of them but possible anything upto 50% which will almost certainly include some of the private hire that are joining the GMB. Don't forget we see the regulars every night, know which companies they are working for ect.[/b]
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Mr Hildreth

If the private hire worked within the conditions of their licence there wouldn't be a problem.

Maybe as their union representatives you could educate your NEW members what the conditions of their licence entitles them to do.

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Then you'd feel like this ](*,)

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Mr Hildreth

If the private hire worked within the conditions of their licence there wouldn't be a problem.

Maybe as their union representatives you could educate your NEW members what the conditions of their licence entitles them to do.

PRE BOOKED ONLY

Then you'd feel like this ](*,)

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Will the age limits make any difference to the illegal plying?

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Probably not, what people don't know is that Leeds VLE statistics should that most cars are replaced by the age of 6 years, you can apply for an extention to the limit under hardship circumstances, if the vehicle is in good sound mechanical condition then they will allow you to keep it on for another 12 months
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APH wrote:
No not all of them but possible anything upto 50% which will almost certainly include some of the private hire that are joining the GMB.

Well if it is 50% then surely you must echo the GMB point re: get the bad guys, leave the good guys alone?

And if it is 50% then surely you must echo the GMB point re: the licensing department has failed in their duty to protect the public?

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if the vehicle is in good sound mechanical condition then they will allow you to keep it on for another 12 months

Why just 12 months, why not 12 years? :?

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almost certainly include some of the private hire that are joining the GMB.

The London GMB has been at the forefront of the battle to rid London of the illegal touts.

Why do you think the Provincial GMB will differ? :?

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Not my ruling, thats what they offer.

Unfortunately when they start saying its in the interests of public saftey then people would find it hard to argue against it.

Part of the problem in Leeds is the amount of private hire vehicles which are failing the test, if they kept up to the maintenance this may not of even been considered.

Rumor is, and it is a rumor that this may be put on the back burner and they will start targeting the rogue operators
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almost certainly include some of the private hire that are joining the GMB.

The London GMB has been at the forefront of the battle to rid London of the illegal touts.

Why do you think the Provincial GMB will differ? :?


If you go back to my original thread, Mr Hildreth said LEAVE THE GOOD GUYS ALONE, this referred to an article in the Yorkshire Evening Post picturing private hire drivers upset about the possibility of Leeds City Council changing the age limit from 8 years to 6. You need to come to Leeds to see what the hackney carriage drivers are up against, when enforcement officers are out, private hire just keep moving from one end of town to another always 1 step ahead of them, 2 private hire parked outside every late night food outlet, driving down busy streets at 2 miles per hour with both front windows down, hail rain or shine.

I had complaints from customers about private hire driving along side them trying to badger them into getting in, police constantly turning a blind eye.

Thats why I don't see them as the good guys, true its not all of them but it certainly isn't a minority of them either.
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If you go back to my original thread, Mr Hildreth said LEAVE THE GOOD GUYS ALONE,

So are you now saying that the drivers with the bad cars don't tout, but the drivers with the good cars do?

No matter how many bad vehicles or touts you have in Leeds, there's bound to be some, maybe even one, good guy who drives a decent motor. The GMB point, and the article clarifies this, is for the council to get rid of the sh** and leave the non-sh** alone.

Do you disagree with that? :?

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The London GMB has been at the forefront of the battle to rid London of the illegal touts.




They have? :shock:

In whispers?
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