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Now CC, put yourself in her fathers shoes. Would you want more hacks that are easily recognisable with a qualified driver at the helm? Or more Ph? Fly by nights in a whole host of different vehicles?

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What? She didn't know if she was in a Ph or a Hack? :roll: It's not about "deregulated areas" it's about opportunity. Are we, as a trade, creating the opportunity for this kind of thing to happen?

Definitely!

Vested interests in Edinburgh don't give a shi* and that's the truth of it.

Now CC, answer the questions in my previous post but put yourself in the shoes of this girls father.


The police dont know that it was a PHV.

And I wouldnt like to be in the fathers shoes.

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But you and jasbar are suggesting rapes occur more often in regulated areas than deregulated ones, and you dont have any proof at all.


Nope, I don't remember anyone suggesting anything of the sort.

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All jasbar sees is an opportunity to have another go at ECC, which will make a pleasant change from that radio circuit, the gagging order in that respect seems to have beaten him.


You've not see the You Tube videos and Party pics then?

Nothing to do with us but no less than was predicted in court.

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As for his inane email to councillors, what did he expect? In actual fact he's probably lucky to get away with his email address being banned.

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More shi*e CC, now answer the questions?


I answered the question and in jasbars letter to the council he inferred that the rapes were the councils fault.

And I saw the u tube clips and found them funny, but then you didnt do them because if you did I suppose that would breach whatever you had agreed to adhere to.

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captain cab wrote:
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What? She didn't know if she was in a Ph or a Hack? :roll: It's not about "deregulated areas" it's about opportunity. Are we, as a trade, creating the opportunity for this kind of thing to happen?

Definitely!

Vested interests in Edinburgh don't give a shi* and that's the truth of it.

Now CC, answer the questions in my previous post but put yourself in the shoes of this girls father.


The police dont know that it was a PHV.

And I wouldnt like to be in the fathers shoes.

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But you and jasbar are suggesting rapes occur more often in regulated areas than deregulated ones, and you dont have any proof at all.


Nope, I don't remember anyone suggesting anything of the sort.

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All jasbar sees is an opportunity to have another go at ECC, which will make a pleasant change from that radio circuit, the gagging order in that respect seems to have beaten him.


You've not see the You Tube videos and Party pics then?

Nothing to do with us but no less than was predicted in court.

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As for his inane email to councillors, what did he expect? In actual fact he's probably lucky to get away with his email address being banned.

CC



More shi*e CC, now answer the questions?


I answered the question and in jasbars letter to the council he inferred that the rapes were the councils fault.

And I saw the u tube clips and found them funny, but then you didnt do them because if you did I suppose that would breach whatever you had agreed to adhere to.

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These are my questions:

Now put yourself in her fathers shoes. Would you want more hacks that are easily recognisable with a qualified driver at the helm? Or more Ph? Fly by nights in a whole host of different vehicles?

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It's simple CC, a more regulated fleet of Taxis? Or a less regulated fleet of Ph?

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I know what the council choose?

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RAPE!!!!

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There's no proof the vehicle was even a PH is there?

Is jasbar suggesting people don't get raped in deregulated areas, if so has he got the proof?

Now if he could come back with something like that, then I suggest he'd have more credibility.

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Mitigation of risk, CC.

CEC policy (allegedly) causes severe shortage of cabs on busy nights.
PH take up the slack illegally. Customers get used to this and think nothing of getting into a saloon car.

Pervs see this going on and use the same idea, in unlicenced vehicles.
PH in most of Scotland are distinguishable only by the licence plate on the back - what pi$$ed up punter ever bothers to check?
They just want home and don't give a toss about who can or can't pick up.

So who is to blame?
CEC restrict taxi numbers.
CEC regulate PH.
No idea what the police in Edinburgh are like but here they don't give a toss.

This makes it, at least in part, CEC's problem.
I seriously doubt that any of this was intended or even considered by CEC.
The question is, have CEC done all they can to protect the public?
Or could they be doing more?

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Skull wrote:

These are my questions:

Now put yourself in her fathers shoes. Would you want more hacks that are easily recognisable with a qualified driver at the helm? Or more Ph? Fly by nights in a whole host of different vehicles?



I said I didnt want to be in the fathers shoes.

But I dont think I'd be thinking about taxi numbers I'd be thinking about cutting off the culprits b*lls.

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gusmac wrote:
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There's no proof the vehicle was even a PH is there?

Is jasbar suggesting people don't get raped in deregulated areas, if so has he got the proof?

Now if he could come back with something like that, then I suggest he'd have more credibility.

CC


Mitigation of risk, CC.

CEC policy (allegedly) causes severe shortage of cabs on busy nights.
PH take up the slack illegally. Customers get used to this and think nothing of getting into a saloon car.

Pervs see this going on and use the same idea, in unlicenced vehicles.
PH in most of Scotland are distinguishable only by the licence plate on the back - what [edited by admin] up punter ever bothers to check?
They just want home and don't give a toss about who can or can't pick up.

So who is to blame?
CEC restrict taxi numbers.
CEC regulate PH.
No idea what the police in Edinburgh are like but here they don't give a toss.

This makes it, at least in part, CEC's problem.
I seriously doubt that any of this was intended or even considered by CEC.
The question is, have CEC done all they can to protect the public?
Or could they be doing more?


As long as it's not CC's, daughter it doesn't matter . . . that's about the size of it.

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gusmac wrote:

Mitigation of risk, CC.

CEC policy (allegedly) causes severe shortage of cabs on busy nights.
PH take up the slack illegally. Customers get used to this and think nothing of getting into a saloon car.

Pervs see this going on and use the same idea, in unlicenced vehicles.
PH in most of Scotland are distinguishable only by the licence plate on the back - what pi$$ed up punter ever bothers to check?
They just want home and don't give a toss about who can or can't pick up.

So who is to blame?
CEC restrict taxi numbers.
CEC regulate PH.
No idea what the police in Edinburgh are like but here they don't give a toss.

This makes it, at least in part, CEC's problem.
I seriously doubt that any of this was intended or even considered by CEC.
The question is, have CEC done all they can to protect the public?
Or could they be doing more?


Are the vetting procedures for PH drivers in Edinburgh the same as HC drivers?

CC

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captain cab wrote:
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These are my questions:

Now put yourself in her fathers shoes. Would you want more hacks that are easily recognisable with a qualified driver at the helm? Or more Ph? Fly by nights in a whole host of different vehicles?



I said I didnt want to be in the fathers shoes.

But I dont think I'd be thinking about taxi numbers I'd be thinking about cutting off the culprits b*lls.

CC


Maybe so, but I'm putting you in her father shoes.

Oh and let me tell you something.

If I was that girls father, and I knew the lengths the council had went to to stop a safer mode of transport operating on the streets, Collin Keir would be the one getting raped - :twisted: I'd make sure of it.

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captain cab wrote:
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Mitigation of risk, CC.

CEC policy (allegedly) causes severe shortage of cabs on busy nights.
PH take up the slack illegally. Customers get used to this and think nothing of getting into a saloon car.

Pervs see this going on and use the same idea, in unlicenced vehicles.
PH in most of Scotland are distinguishable only by the licence plate on the back - what pi$$ed up punter ever bothers to check?
They just want home and don't give a toss about who can or can't pick up.

So who is to blame?
CEC restrict taxi numbers.
CEC regulate PH.
No idea what the police in Edinburgh are like but here they don't give a toss.

This makes it, at least in part, CEC's problem.
I seriously doubt that any of this was intended or even considered by CEC.
The question is, have CEC done all they can to protect the public?
Or could they be doing more?


Are the vetting procedures for PH drivers in Edinburgh the same as HC drivers?

CC


I would imagine so.
As the perpetrator of this crime is most likely unlicensed, that would be irrelevent.

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Maybe so, but I'm putting you in her father shoes.

Oh and let me tell you something.

If I was that girls father, and I knew the lengths the council had went to to stop a safer mode of transport operating on the streets, Collin Keir would be the one getting raped - :twisted: I'd make sure of it.


A safer mode of transport would possibly to allow saloon vehicle to ply for hire, allow them roof signs, make them all hackney carriages and drop the restrictive knowledge test.

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captain cab wrote:
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Mitigation of risk, CC.

CEC policy (allegedly) causes severe shortage of cabs on busy nights.
PH take up the slack illegally. Customers get used to this and think nothing of getting into a saloon car.

Pervs see this going on and use the same idea, in unlicenced vehicles.
PH in most of Scotland are distinguishable only by the licence plate on the back - what pi$$ed up punter ever bothers to check?
They just want home and don't give a toss about who can or can't pick up.

So who is to blame?
CEC restrict taxi numbers.
CEC regulate PH.
No idea what the police in Edinburgh are like but here they don't give a toss.

This makes it, at least in part, CEC's problem.
I seriously doubt that any of this was intended or even considered by CEC.
The question is, have CEC done all they can to protect the public?
Or could they be doing more?


Are the vetting procedures for PH drivers in Edinburgh the same as HC drivers?

CC


Yes, but their vehicles are not easily recognisable, nor are the drivers as highly qualified.

The fact is, your daughter could be jumping in a private car with anyone.

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Yes, but their vehicles are not easily recognisable, nor are the drivers as highly qualified.

The fact is, your daughter could be jumping in a private car with anyone.


Why do they have to be highy qualified?

Allow them roofsigns and bring in a colour policy, and make every licensed PH driver a HC driver.

seems reasonable to me.

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