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I have just ordered 4 wheelchair accessible vehicles throughout aids for other disabilities.

ok so you want saloons to help other disabilities? well get one that loads a wheelchair in the back.

this is a scam you sold your sallooon for a packet and got a free plate for a wav

now you want your saloon back.

like guest at the end you counldnt give twopence about any of your passengers thats why you aint got many.

Nothing will happen, because they wont go.

You are trying to get your council to stop issuing WAVs by trying to get them to issue more saloons. An interesting way, but doomed to failure.

We all know what will happen, the council will mandate asap, which will lead the saloon lads having to buy WAVs before the 2010-2020 deadline.

I might have sympathy with that, but is that really what the saloon lads want from the T&G?

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IDFIMH

Wrong Sussex,

What we are concerned about is a legal challenge to open the number of saloon plates, we believe that a court will decide that because the council allow an unlimited number of WAVs they couldn't justify the restriction currently in place for saloons.

We therefore believe that a restriction should be placed on BOTH plates then through managed growth increase numbers with an insistance on WAVs.

Remember the lads were supposed to change by 2000 then an extended date was given and the same could well happen again.

So in conclusion we are trying to get the council to stop issuing all plates and hold an unmet demand survey and manage the growth to allow drivers the opportunity to make a living without having to work for parasite PH operators.


B. Lucky

Well that's what I said.

But anyone with any foresight will see that your council wont close up, they will simply make all taxis WAVs. That's sooner than the 2010-2020 deadline, when they have too.

As for the parasite PH operators, well if your council restrict, which isn't going to happen, then surely you are then forcing all new drivers into those self same parasites. Because they have no other choice.

Or following restriction, are all Gateshead customers going to overnight stop ringing for a cab.

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IDFIMH

Wrong again.

[edited by admin] wake up will you, berk.

I BOUGHT my saloon plate and SOLD it for WHAT I PAID FOR IT.

The WAV I bought with a WAV plate on was bought from someone already in the trade who needed to get rid of it as he was suffering financially, the price I paid for the vehicle was closer to its market value than what he would have got if it had been reposessed, and he didn't get further CCJ's. That vehicle was sold for the market value of the vehicle no premiums were added for the licence.

B. Lucky

No it isn't what you said Sussex, you implied that I was trying to get the restriction lifted on saloons, and that is not the case, not the case at all.

I'm only concerned that a legal challange will be mounted to lift the number of saloons as I don't believe the council can justify that quota without introducing a quota to the WAV licence.

I believed that the advice from government is to remove all restrictions or justify why they don't.

B. Lucky

If you want to endanger the lives of your passengers thats up to you, but don't expect others to lower their standards to yours.

The government need to approve vehicles for use as if your council are licensing these deathtraps they are clearly incompetant when it comes to approving vehicles.

The issue of accessibility and what constitutes such a vehicle should not solely be down to whether or not they carry wheelchairs.

Now go away and find some lies to tell about someone else.

B. Lucky

and the government have done just that
the doblo for instance has got M1 european clearance for use as a taxi, and no they are not death traps at all, thats just used by the likes of you.

the government also reccomend that all wheelchair passengers are removed from wheelchairs wherever possible, no wheelchair has m1 clearance for use when traveling

come on Mick try and show some knowledge of the regs.

If such a vehicle was to be involved in a rear end accident and the rear door/ doors were jammed, how would you remove the passenger safely without risk of injusry to either you or them.

Just to remind everyone that ALL vehicles must achieve European Full Body M1 certification to be used on our roads. The certification for any vehicle is invalidated either when its passenger carrying capability is changed or any part of the chasis or bodywork is changed.

As only vehicles manufacturerd can be considered to have M1 certification your claim that any converted vehicle attains the certification the vehicle recieved when manufactured.

LTI, Metrocab and Allied Vehicles ALL manufacture their vehicles and have all had their vehicles properly tested. Other companies convert vehicles to M1 specification and those to should be considered. However rear entry is dangerous for taxi users as there are no ranks that allow passengers to board the vehicle without going onto the road.

Public safety must be paramount, these vehicles carry to much risk.

Maybe its just a case of individual standards, but I would rather ensure that the vehicle I use is fit for public service and of the highest safety standard possible, its obvious that you don't share my principles of safety before profit.

Well if you applied for a saloon taxi vehicle license, and challenged any refusal in the courts, then I would advise you strongly not to tell the judge you don't really want what you are applying for.

He might well get the right hump over you wasting his time.

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IDFIMH

you are missing the point entirely not suprisingly

the doblo wheelchair accessible has been passed m1 as a taxi thats what I said and thats what I meant.

the vast majority of disabled by wheelchair clients buy these vehicles for themselves.

its just a scare story put about by vested interest to say these vehicles are always in crashes

what do councils buy for thier own use? backloading with a taillift

a local authority here has just specified for a taxi company vehicles to do thier work.(the councils) and the council will be passing the vehicles for hackney work.

the spec is backloading with a tail lift.

and thats free advise from a solicitor. put your money on it Mick test it in court.

but I wouldnt.

I dunno who you are buying this thing off but Fiat don't build a wheelchair accessible Doblo. The vehicles are converted then sold to you. Go into Fiat and ask don't take the word of a salesman who will tell you more lies than you tell yourself.

Your council may well have tested it buit it won't have recieved European Full Body M1 status as it is converted not manufactured.

Why do you think Allied Vehicles spent hundreds of thousands of pounds building a production line if they could have got EFB M1 approval as a converter.



The council have the facilities to accomodate taillift vehicles and drivers are instructed to reverse to the kerb to allow passengers to board and alight the vehicles whenever possible. Also vehicles operated by the council also are escorted in many cases and when the passengers get in or out its a two person operation.

The council will also only buy vehicles capable of carrying multiple wheelchairs to make them cost effective, vehicles which are not cost effective as taxis.



Please stop making stupid comparative arguments that have little or no qualification, I'm also concerned at the lack of passenger safety awareness you show, the Doblo Deathtrap costs half as much as a proper vehicle and it is on that basis alone you want one.

Glad I don't live where you work.

B. Lucky

Try taking them to FIAT for warranty work, they will run a mile.

Mick

its awfull when you lose an argument , and your expertise is nil and yes its you thats misleading, of couse you dont back up to a kerb and the drivers are not instructed thus.

right to the point where you say I want a doblo where have you got that idea from?

it just destroys you argument for new salloons, thats why it has to be a lie.


stupid arguments? nonesence man.

Doblo deathtrap? well that should put you in court far more disabled travel safly in them than in london internationals.

if this is how you carry on down at your town hall make no wonder you can get nothing through cabinet.