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I was curious. We have 4 bases that PH will park at all on public roads. Our downtown base office can have as many as 13 in a queue waiting for punters if it's quiet. The thing with the base downtown is you access through a carpark belonging to a shop but the actual road bit where our office is is a public road, not that anybody uses it.

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What is the difference between parking outside the office and ranking up outside the office?

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What is the difference between parking outside the office and ranking up outside the office?


Courtesy of JD's expertise;

Gilbert v McKay
[1946] 1 All ER 458, 44 LGR 63, 110 JP 186, 90 Sol Jo 201, 174 LT 196, 62 TLR 226

Court: DC
Judgment Date: circa 1946

Considered Cavill v Amos (1900) 64 JP 309, 16 TLR 156 DC circa 1900

ROAD TRAFFIC - HACKNEY AND OTHER CARRIAGES AND LONDON CABS - HACKNEY AND STAGE CARRIAGES IN LONDON - MEANINGS - CAR STANDING IN PUBLIC STREET — HIRING AT ADJACENT OFFICE


Appellant had an office in London with a sign, ‘Cars for hire,’ displayed on the outside. Several motor cars belonging to appellant were standing in the street adjacent to the office, and, on October 11, 1944, several persons were seen to enter the office for the purpose of paying for the hire of any one of the cars in which later they were driven away.

On a charge of being the owner of unlicensed hackney carriages plying for hire, contrary to the Metropolitan Public Carriage Act 1869 (c 115) s 7, appellant was convicted and fined by the metropolitan police magistrate. Appellant appealed and a case was stated for the opinion of the High Court: Held although in each case no contract was entered into with the driver of the car and no payment made to him, there was a plying for hire of the cars standing in the public street.

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Where does a private hire car go inbetween jobs then?

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Where does a private hire car go inbetween jobs then?


Anywhere except Berwick?

I think this was answered in another thread recently....it all depends on circumstances and the actions.

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I have blonde moments but it is obvious to me they can go anywhere so long as it's not a public road. If they are on a public road they have to have an invisible cloak over the vehicle so nobody can see it. Alternatively do as the HC's that can't get onto ranks should do but don't and drive around and around until you get a job.

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Or get a hackney licence and behave as a taxi
More than 2 vehicles constitutes a rank on a public road if they are P.H?

Cant understand the confusion here?
Private hire is as it says private.
Public hire has its conditions but the legal right to be hired or hailed is the main one.
This issue of hackneys being castigated for plying for hire outside a public place makes me laugh, what should we do?
let the P.H just do waht they want?
I hope as JD Said they get a night rank if not just keep on doing what your doing keeping the pirate P/H out.
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Or get a hackney licence and behave as a taxi
More than 2 vehicles constitutes a rank on a public road if they are P.H?

Cant understand the confusion here?
Private hire is as it says private.
Public hire has its conditions but the legal right to be hired or hailed is the main one.
This issue of hackneys being castigated for plying for hire outside a public place makes me laugh, what should we do?
let the P.H just do waht they want?
I hope as JD Said they get a night rank if not just keep on doing what your doing keeping the pirate P/H out.
G.


I totally agree we shall all become HC's and sit on ranks all day. Oh no we can't there aren't enough of them for the current HC's. I also agree that all PH that pirate should walk the plank but I fail to see what the problem is with PH being parked anywhere even if there are more than 2 (where in the regulations does it say more than 2 constitutes a rank). I'm sure the HC's will get their rank and so they should. Customers should be given the option to walk out and flag a HC or phone their favourite firm for a PH.

Regardless of what you think of PH they do provide an essential and professional service. It's no wonder PH and HC's can't get on with this swallow me knob attitude that some of it's drivers have towards each other. :roll:

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GORDON wrote:
More than 2 vehicles constitutes a rank on a public road if they are P.H?

An urban, but often repeated, myth.

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Where does a private hire car go inbetween jobs then?


I have blonde moments but it is obvious to me they can go anywhere so long as it's not a public road. If they are on a public road they have to have an invisible cloak over the vehicle so nobody can see it. Alternatively do as the HC's that can't get onto ranks should do but don't and drive around and around until you get a job.


What I am getting at is that some people say that PH should return to base inbetween jobs but if that base is situated on a public road with public parking outside, some people say that parking there would constitute an illegal rank. All so confusing.

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grandad wrote:
Where does a private hire car go inbetween jobs then?


I have blonde moments but it is obvious to me they can go anywhere so long as it's not a public road. If they are on a public road they have to have an invisible cloak over the vehicle so nobody can see it. Alternatively do as the HC's that can't get onto ranks should do but don't and drive around and around until you get a job.


What I am getting at is that some people say that PH should return to base inbetween jobs but if that base is situated on a public road with public parking outside, some people say that parking there would constitute an illegal rank. All so confusing.


Welcome to my world :lol:

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Welcome to my world :lol:


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