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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:40 am 
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If feeling philanthropic why not just reduce the radio rents to all and do away with the surcharges on jockeys?....


It's a business not a charity. If the drivers are happy why change it. This is a simple request for advice regarding the possibilities of settle cars. This chap wants to know what you would consider to be a fair option for the drivers AND the business. :D

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If feeling philanthropic why not just reduce the radio rents to all and do away with the surcharges on jockeys?....


It's a business not a charity. If the drivers are happy why change it. This is a simple request for advice regarding the possibilities of settle cars. This chap wants to know what you would consider to be a fair option for the drivers AND the business. :D


granted.

but shouldnt he know already, hes got 110 on the circuit he can ask already, he will get about 10 to ask on here....doesnt make sense, his (potential) market is outside his office.

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If feeling philanthropic why not just reduce the radio rents to all and do away with the surcharges on jockeys?....


It's a business not a charity. If the drivers are happy why change it. This is a simple request for advice regarding the possibilities of settle cars. This chap wants to know what you would consider to be a fair option for the drivers AND the business. :D


granted.

but shouldnt he know already, hes got 110 on the circuit he can ask already, he will get about 10 to ask on here....doesnt make sense, his (potential) market is outside his office.


He has his ideas and his drivers have obviously expressed their opinion. All he wants is more opinions on what kind of deal drivers would like. Somebody may come up with a crediable deal that nobody has thought of. Thats's one of things TDO is useful for. It really doesn't matter to us one jot if he intends to take more drivers on and put them in settle cars. At least he's asking for opinions from drivers which is a damn sight more than most operators of larger firms :D

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If feeling philanthropic why not just reduce the radio rents to all and do away with the surcharges on jockeys?....


It's a business not a charity. If the drivers are happy why change it. This is a simple request for advice regarding the possibilities of settle cars. This chap wants to know what you would consider to be a fair option for the drivers AND the business. :D


granted.

but shouldnt he know already, hes got 110 on the circuit he can ask already, he will get about 10 to ask on here....doesnt make sense, his (potential) market is outside his office.


My market may at some point include experienced drivers from outside of my circuit, however to begin with any deal would only be offered to existing drivers that have worked my circuit for at least 1 year. This is a time period that i feel comfortable with because it ensures any newbies don't take on a financial burden that they may not be able to afford.


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"Settle cars" is a descripton for hire/purchase that i am not familar with, any idea where it comes from?


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rambo wrote:
My guvnor will lend drivers the money for a car. Borrow £5000, pay back £7500 at £200 pw.
The guvnor then tells the controllers to look after the driver so he gets his money!


That's not my style and never will be, i just want to put a package together that's affordable to both parties.


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My market may at some point include experienced drivers from outside of my circuit


I think this is the part that is confusing. If they are not on your circuit are you intending to offer to supply vehicles to drivers on other circuits i.e your competitors? If you intend only to supply drivers from your own circuit for the 1st year I take it you mean new drivers and perhaps existing drivers that need new vehicles.

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"Settle cars" is a descripton for hire/purchase that i am not familar with, any idea where it comes from?


TBH I haven't got a clue but perhaps it relates to 'settling up' all expenditure at the end of the week :?

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My market may at some point include experienced drivers from outside of my circuit


I think this is the part that is confusing. If they are not on your circuit are you intending to offer to supply vehicles to drivers on other circuits i.e your competitors? If you intend only to supply drivers from your own circuit for the 1st year I take it you mean new drivers and perhaps existing drivers that need new vehicles.

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"Settle cars" is a descripton for hire/purchase that i am not familar with, any idea where it comes from?


TBH I haven't got a clue but perhaps it relates to 'settling up' all expenditure at the end of the week :?


If they are not on your circuit are you intending to offer to supply vehicles to drivers on other circuits i.e your competitors

Certainly not to begin with.

If you intend only to supply drivers from your own circuit for the 1st year I take it you mean new drivers and perhaps existing drivers that need new vehicles.

Yes, including commission drivers (jockeys)


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Certainly not to begin with.


But eventually, yes

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Yes, including commission drivers


I take it you mean the 2nd driver of a vehicle that is already on the system so they can have their own vehicle and not have to share

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Certainly not to begin with.


But eventually, yes

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Yes, including commission drivers


I take it you mean the 2nd driver of a vehicle that is already on the system so they can have their own vehicle and not have to share


If it works ok with my drivers then i would eventually consider offering the same deal to drivers on another circuit, yes, and yes to the 2nd driver sharing a car also. Hope i'm making sense now?


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Taxi_boss_Uk wrote:
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Certainly not to begin with.


But eventually, yes

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Yes, including commission drivers


I take it you mean the 2nd driver of a vehicle that is already on the system so they can have their own vehicle and not have to share


If it works ok with my drivers then i would eventually consider offering the same deal to drivers on another circuit, yes, and yes to the 2nd driver sharing a car also. Hope i'm making sense now?


Perfectly, thank you :D

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After reading how much you charge for a fully services vehicle, could I point out that you could buy a brand new car with insurance and meter fitted for less than £100 per week, and by putting another £25 away each week to cover servicing
So the driver would save £800 a month getting his own rather than paying you


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After reading how much you charge for a fully services vehicle, could I point out that you could buy a brand new car with insurance and meter fitted for less than £100 per week, and by putting another £25 away each week to cover servicing
So the driver would save £800 a month getting his own rather than paying you


the "benefactor" wants to help out the £38K/year drivers who cant get HP....

BTW, when ive rented a radio for a week, thats 24hrs a day 7 days a week, no extra to pay, and if i choose to pay for a drivers badge to man it an extra shift i dont see how i should pay more radio rent/settle, anyone who falls for paying extra (or double even) needs to check out the local bases to see if they do the same), after all, i COULD choose to work 18 hour shifts, would that cost more?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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After reading how much you charge for a fully services vehicle, could I point out that you could buy a brand new car with insurance and meter fitted for less than £100 per week, and by putting another £25 away each week to cover servicing
So the driver would save £800 a month getting his own rather than paying you


the "benefactor" wants to help out the £38K/year drivers who cant get HP....(/quote)

BTW, when ive rented a radio for a week, thats 24hrs a day 7 days a week, no extra to pay, and if i choose to pay for a drivers badge to man it an extra shift i dont see how i should pay more radio rent/settle, anyone who falls for paying extra (or double even) needs to check out the local bases to see if they do the same), after all, i COULD choose to work 18 hour shifts, would that cost more?


I am not aware of any of any of my past/current drivers that clear £38k per year after costs, what ever gave you that idea? You certainly didn't get it from me!


Individual drivers are limited to work no longer than 12 hour shifts on my circuit (safety issue), however where i come from commission drivers (jockeys) may also drive the owners car for a further 12 hour's at a charge of only £2.00 per shift (they can even manage to pay for there own PH license). Not a bad deal for all concerned if you ask me, at the moment our circuit rent is the cheapest in town bar none, 180 drivers can't all be wrong or can they? probably not as no other PH/hackney company in my area has more drivers!


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skippy41 wrote:
After reading how much you charge for a fully services vehicle, could I point out that you could buy a brand new car with insurance and meter fitted for less than £100 per week, and by putting another £25 away each week to cover servicing
So the driver would save £800 a month getting his own rather than paying you


Not guilty ma' lord.


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