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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:35 pm 
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ffs....the bloke was tortured



His problem......maybe best if he had stayed in ethiopia


after watching "Border control UK" and a few others like it it seems to me that these "shouldnt be heres" get away (sometimes literally) with murder

"eyee noo speeek eeeengleeeesh, eyeee in daneger for leeeef in sooomalia/bbbolguria" confuses cops so much (or they are scared of the paperwork) that they let em go or you hear "the bloke failed to turn up at court"

WHAT A F*****G suprise

Id get clapped in irons and the wife/kids sold into slavery

can you imagine going abroad, and getting nicked (say) Turkey for speeding?.....FFS id be fined and locked up till i paid! then taken to the airport and kicked out


I'm coming to the conclusion, whether its right or wrong I dont know, that your a bit of a racist. :x


damn right i am where my country is concerned, arent you?


But when a foreigner gets in your cab you are only too pleased to take his money, especially if it's a god run, double standards I'm afraid.



Visiting as a Tourists one thing.....Coming here on the scrounge is another, or worse still coming here with terrorist goals in mind is worse still. Anyway, im sure race is not the issue here, this guy was ethiopian, He left to go to pakistan because he didnt like britain, he was caught in Afghanistan. Why in hells name should Britain pick up the Bill to keep him or even fight his corner..that should have been the Ethiopian governments Perogative to do so. Like most in here Im sure we couldnt give a toss if he was white, Pink, Brown, Purple or yellow with blue spots...he is not a british problem and nor was he even a british Resident at his time of capture...capture of which was by the Americans who are far more racially integrated than we are or ever will be here simply because the coloured races of america swear an oath to their Country and are loyal to that country regardless of them being American or emigre's from other countries.

We British are one of the most Tolerant nations on earth in accepting all and sundry to our shores....wannabeehacks is right in realising that Nice as we are we just cannot absorb anymore People here simply because the damn place isnt big enough to take them or feed them, If we do we will just be over run and the Country will collapse, dont matter Jack where they come from to live here, and in us taking everyone here especially the cream of other countries skilled workers we only serve in keeping their country of origin from pulling itself up by its own chinstraps.

We do not do any other Nations any favours by stealing their workforce, nor do we do our own Race any favours by denying our children the heritage that should be theirs and give it all away to some Millions of peoples just looking for that easy ticket to life that we had to spend Centuries fighting over and working towards.

Thats not a racist View, it is a Patriotic view that should not be Muffled by the Idiotic PC groups who cannot accept that we should be allowed to express our fears without the fear of being witch hunted for us having the audacity to use the very freedom of speech that our ancestors fought and died for and that very same free speech that they try to deny to us.

No racism here..........Just believers in freedom.


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Visiting as a Tourists one thing.....Coming here on the scrounge is another[i]

Foreigners living here get taxi's too, those are the foreigners that i was referring to, he will gladly accept there money.


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Taxi_boss_Uk wrote:
Visiting as a Tourists one thing.....Coming here on the scrounge is another

Foreigners living here get taxi's too, those are the foreigners that i was referring to, he will gladly accept there money.


Thier money
not THERE money

so you condone illegal visa-overstays and the sangatte hitch hikers?....

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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Visiting as a Tourists one thing.....Coming here on the scrounge is another

Foreigners living here get taxi's too, those are the foreigners that i was referring to, he will gladly accept there money.


Thier money
not THERE money

so you condone illegal visa-overstays and the sangatte hitch hikers?....


Well actually it should be their money, but i still don't have your double standards.

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Taxi_boss_Uk wrote:
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Visiting as a Tourists one thing.....Coming here on the scrounge is another

Foreigners living here get taxi's too, those are the foreigners that i was referring to, he will gladly accept there money.


Thier money
not THERE money

so you condone illegal visa-overstays and the sangatte hitch hikers?....


Well actually it should be their money, but i still don't have

your double standards.

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I don't necessarily believe that your views are racist, nor have i implied or suggested that they are, i just don't see how you have no hang ups about taking their money in a cab, yet you obviously resent them being here, that for me is double standards.


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bloodnock wrote:
Taxi_boss_Uk wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Taxi_boss_Uk wrote:
Visiting as a Tourists one thing.....Coming here on the scrounge is another

Foreigners living here get taxi's too, those are the foreigners that i was referring to, he will gladly accept there money.


Thier money
not THERE money

so you condone illegal visa-overstays and the sangatte hitch hikers?....


Well actually it should be their money, but i still don't have

your double standards.

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their money,


Would that be the money they illegally earn, since they are not supposed to have jobs, or the benefits they get out of our tax money?

If someone flees their country in genuine fear of their life, they should make any asylum claim at their EU port of entry. Not secreet themselves across Europe and claim asylum once they get caught or when they arrive in the most welcoming economy.
That isn't genuine fear - it's economic choice.
These people are not our problem and we should not allow them in.

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their money,


Would that be the money they illegally earn, since they are not supposed to have jobs, or the benefits they get out of our tax money?

If someone flees their country in genuine fear of their life, they should make any asylum claim at their EU port of entry. Not secreet themselves across Europe and claim asylum once they get caught or when they arrive in the most welcoming economy.
That isn't genuine fear - it's economic choice.
These people are not our problem and we should not allow them in.


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The whole undertone of wannabee's original post was in my opinion, which admittedly isnt worth jack sh*t, racist.

Whatever the guy in question did.....and it appears he left our country for another, does that mean he is entitled to be allegedly tortured in Morrocco and in Cuba, does that mean he isnt permitted to have a fair trial?

I see the countries wannabee mentions.....are people saying they want our system the same as Turkey?

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Whatever the guy in question did.....and it appears he left our country for another, does that mean he is entitled to be allegedly tortured in Morrocco and in Cuba, does that mean he isnt permitted to have a fair trial?


What he did is very much the question, CC.
If he's British, as he claims.
No, he shouldn't have been tortured.
He could, however, count himself lucky he didn't get a fair trial for treason.
I believe it still carries the death sentence, does it not?

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What he did is very much the question, CC.
If he's British, as he claims.
No, he shouldn't have been tortured.
He could, however, count himself lucky he didn't get a fair trial for treason.
I believe it still carries the death sentence, does it not?


I dont disagree with anything you posted there.

If he's committed a crime he should have a trial.

What shouldnt happen is detention without trial in a foreign country with our country complicit in his detention.

If he's guilty....hang him....I dont have a problem with that.

What I do have a problem with is that our values as a country are seemingly selective...thats plain wrong.

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gusmac wrote:
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Whatever the guy in question did.....and it appears he left our country for another, does that mean he is entitled to be allegedly tortured in Morrocco and in Cuba, does that mean he isnt permitted to have a fair trial?


What he did is very much the question, CC.
If he's British, as he claims.
No, he shouldn't have been tortured.
He could, however, count himself lucky he didn't get a fair trial for treason.
I believe it still carries the death sentence, does it not?


So if he's British as he claims he shouldn't be tortured but if he isn't that's ok :?

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So if he's British as he claims he shouldn't be tortured but if he isn't that's ok :?


No, it isn't ok.
If he's British, he should answer to our legal system for what he has or hasn't done.
If he's not British, he shouldn't be here. He's not our problem.

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What he did is very much the question, CC.
If he's British, as he claims.
No, he shouldn't have been tortured.
He could, however, count himself lucky he didn't get a fair trial for treason.
I believe it still carries the death sentence, does it not?


I dont disagree with anything you posted there.

If he's committed a crime he should have a trial.

What shouldnt happen is detention without trial in a foreign country with our country complicit in his detention.

If he's guilty....hang him....I dont have a problem with that.

What I do have a problem with is that our values as a country are seemingly selective...thats plain wrong.

CC


Agreed.

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