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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:21 pm 
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I'm hoping there may be some sensible discussion on this topic before it ascends to the usual heights to be found on TDO!!

A driver, male, has changed his name by deed poll to that of a female and has asked other drivers, both male and female, if they would object if he worked in a skirt. It is alleged that hormones are being taken to encourage the body to change it's physical attributes accordingly. I understand that, in due course, the process may be completed surgically.

Now, the dilemma: How, ffs, would a company for which he/she/it works deal with this situation? What the f*ck should a company instruct it's staff to say on the phone if they are asked? How would you handle a similar situation with one of your drivers?

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :? :? :? :? :? :? :shock:



If this person is planning a sex change op, he (as she currently is) would have to live life as a woman for a length of time to qualify for the op. So he would have to go through this difficult period. It would be hoped that he would be supported in this and it would help if he could take some reasonable ribbing to ease the tension that will undoubtedly be abound. He could have chosen easier professions in which to go through his transitional period though. A real life Corporal Clinger

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:47 pm 
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not sure you can refuse a request for a lady driver...

TBH I think all firms should refuse requests for lady drivers.

If they, the firm, are concerned about a male driver on their circuit then best that driver leave.

And if they, the punter, are concerned about a male driver on the circuit then best they try another one.

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:53 pm 
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not sure you can refuse a request for a lady driver...

TBH I think all firms should refuse requests for lady drivers.

If they, the firm, are concerned about a male driver on their circuit then best that driver leave.

And if they, the punter, are concerned about a male driver on the circuit then best they try another one.


If a punter wants a lady driver and the firm can supply one; why not?

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:58 pm 
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Reverand Jim 69 wrote:
If a punter wants a lady driver and the firm can supply one; why not?

Because I was of the opinion that all drivers where deemed 'fit and proper' when they got their license.

Or are you saying some are more than others just cos they haven't got a willy? :?

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:02 pm 
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Reverand Jim 69 wrote:
If a punter wants a lady driver and the firm can supply one; why not?

Because I was of the opinion that all drivers where deemed 'fit and proper' when they got their license.

Or are you saying some are more than others just cos they haven't got a willy? :?



No but I had a dotty, infirm Grandma who had had a bad experience in her life that led her to be very insecure. She used to prefer a lady p/h driver when she had the choice and I was happy knowing she was more comfortable and relaxed about getting home

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
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Reverand Jim 69 wrote:
No but I had a dotty, infirm Grandma who had had a bad experience in her life that led her to be very insecure.

When someone with a dooty Grandma rings for a female driver late at night, how does the office know it's not a sexual predator booking the cab who's after some easy pickings?

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
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Reverand Jim 69 wrote:
No but I had a dotty, infirm Grandma who had had a bad experience in her life that led her to be very insecure.

When someone with a dooty Grandma rings for a female driver late at night, how does the office know it's not a sexual predator booking the cab who's after some easy pickings?



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Id call Him/Her Mrs Mann...or if he's single then its Miss Mann..or if it were Gordon Brown who'd Changed gender the He'd Be Miss Mannagement..


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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:09 am 
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cabbyman wrote:
I'm hoping there may be some sensible discussion on this topic before it ascends to the usual heights to be found on TDO!!

A driver, male, has changed his name by deed poll to that of a female and has asked other drivers, both male and female, if they would object if he worked in a skirt. It is alleged that hormones are being taken to encourage the body to change it's physical attributes accordingly. I understand that, in due course, the process may be completed surgically.

Now, the dilemma: How, ffs, would a company for which he/she/it works deal with this situation? What the f*ck should a company instruct it's staff to say on the phone if they are asked? How would you handle a similar situation with one of your drivers?

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :? :? :? :? :? :? :shock:


Sorry deal with what situation?????

It's 2009 ffs

Live and let live

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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What the f*ck should a company instruct it's staff to say on the phone if they are asked? How would you handle a similar situation with one of your drivers?

Have a rule in place which says you will not entertain a request just for a woman or man.

Then the she/he can never be offended.


not sure you can refuse a request for a lady driver...


Of course you can refuse the request.

Would they agree to a request for a male driver only?
What about a white driver only?
Or how about "must be a muslim"?
Discrimination law works both ways.

Female driver only discriminates against male drivers, regardless of the reason behind it.

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BTW This driver is still legally male - regardless of how he dresses, what hormones he takes or what surgery he undergoes.
Until his gender is changed by the law, he is still officially a man.

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We have a GP in our town that has gone through this process, there was some reaction to his decision to change sex as you can imagine. But a lot of his/her patients stood by him/her

As for working in a skirt there aren't many female taxi drivers that drive in a skirt anyway as Toots has pointed out

Your going to get some people who are going to ask some questions how you deal with that has got to be with tact and diplomacy.

I take it the council are ok with this?

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He should be more concerned about the reactions of his punters.
They will rip the pi$$ out of him. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: A dilemma
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cabbyman wrote:
I'm hoping there may be some sensible discussion on this topic before it ascends to the usual heights to be found on TDO!!

A driver, male, has changed his name by deed poll


First name obviously. To what did he change it?

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to that of a female and has asked other drivers, both male and female, if they would object if he worked in a skirt.


I think his main concern should be whether the local licensing department objects to him working in a skirt?

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It is alleged that hormones are being taken to encourage the body to change it's physical attributes accordingly. I understand that, in due course, the process may be completed surgically.


Irrelevant.

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Now, the dilemma: How, ffs, would a company for which he/she/it works deal with this situation? What the f*ck should a company instruct it's staff to say on the phone if they are asked? How would you handle a similar situation with one of your drivers?


Perhaps thats a question that should be directed at the person who holds the operators license.

I hope I submitted a sensible response to your somewhat entertaining question.

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