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 Post subject: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:40 am 
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Bought a car yesterday to be plated later next week as a replacement for the car I have now. The salesman gave all the usual bollax about finance etc then turned round and said "Course as your using it as a Taxi we can't offer you Gap Insurance" :? So I asked him to explain why his response was "Coz it's a Taxi!"
Is there any reason why a Taxi cant have Gap insurance?

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:32 am 
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echo15 wrote:
Bought a car yesterday to be plated later next week as a replacement for the car I have now. The salesman gave all the usual bollax about finance etc then turned round and said "Course as your using it as a Taxi we can't offer you Gap Insurance" :? So I asked him to explain why his response was "Coz it's a Taxi!"
Is there any reason why a Taxi cant have Gap insurance?


after buying a car and was sold "gap insurance" to which i thought i was good cover, but sitting down and reading the small print i found it does not cover a SELF EMPLOYED person, I then got it cancelled


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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:08 am 
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echo15 wrote:
Is there any reason why a Taxi cant have Gap insurance?

Of course, firstly 99.9% of cabs don't have it. Secondly there is no statutes/laws saying you need it.

But, and this is where I put my TF mask on (:shock:), Gap insurance comes free with any car purchased from the Taxi Centre. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:10 am 
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Stinky Pete wrote:
echo15 wrote:
Bought a car yesterday to be plated later next week as a replacement for the car I have now. The salesman gave all the usual bollax about finance etc then turned round and said "Course as your using it as a Taxi we can't offer you Gap Insurance" :? So I asked him to explain why his response was "Coz it's a Taxi!"
Is there any reason why a Taxi cant have Gap insurance?


after buying a car and was sold "gap insurance" to which i thought i was good cover, but sitting down and reading the small print i found it does not cover a SELF EMPLOYED person, I then got it cancelled

If that is the case in this instance then maybe Mr echo15 should threaten to report the car salesman to Trading Standards. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:57 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Stinky Pete wrote:
echo15 wrote:
Bought a car yesterday to be plated later next week as a replacement for the car I have now. The salesman gave all the usual bollax about finance etc then turned round and said "Course as your using it as a Taxi we can't offer you Gap Insurance" :? So I asked him to explain why his response was "Coz it's a Taxi!"
Is there any reason why a Taxi cant have Gap insurance?


after buying a car and was sold "gap insurance" to which i thought i was good cover, but sitting down and reading the small print i found it does not cover a SELF EMPLOYED person, I then got it cancelled

If that is the case in this instance then maybe Mr echo15 should threaten to report the car salesman to Trading Standards. :D


I doubt that he would get very far because all insurance is risk based and does not follow normal trading requirements.

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:30 am 
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Stinky Pete wrote:
echo15 wrote:
Bought a car yesterday to be plated later next week as a replacement for the car I have now. The salesman gave all the usual bollax about finance etc then turned round and said "Course as your using it as a Taxi we can't offer you Gap Insurance" :? So I asked him to explain why his response was "Coz it's a Taxi!"
Is there any reason why a Taxi cant have Gap insurance?


after buying a car and was sold "gap insurance" to which i thought i was good cover, but sitting down and reading the small print i found it does not cover a SELF EMPLOYED person, I then got it cancelled


if you were a PAYE employee you would be covered then, even if it was YOUR ltd company... either that or a loan rather than HP shoul dbe covered

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:05 pm 
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What's Gap Insurance :?

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toots wrote:
What's Gap Insurance :?


example

car HP

sticker price £20,000

part ex £5000

balance to finance £15,000

hp charges over 3 years £3500

total to repay = £18,500


car gets nicked/torched/written off a week after purchase

bottom book insurance payout £16000

leaving a GAP of £2500 for you to pay....ouch***

and that leaves you car less and £2500 in debt even WITH fully comp insurance

good int i?.....





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Thanks for the explanation. The only time my car was written off after I had it 12 months the insurance company just cleared the finance on it no questions asked :D

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Thanks for the explanation. The only time my car was written off after I had it 12 months the insurance company just cleared the finance on it no questions asked :D


ah, it depends on the value vs the hp balance though

say you had more outstanding than it was worth (trade value) then thats when you get a debt

have £20K left to pay on a ferrari booked at £20k and you break even, owe £30K and you soon see where the phrase "GAP" comes from

you may have paid a big deposit and put a car in p/x to get the ferrari on finance so youve lost those too...

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:41 pm 
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I doubt that he would get very far because all insurance is risk based and does not follow normal trading requirements.

I think TS take a dim view of miss-selling.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:55 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
I doubt that he would get very far because all insurance is risk based and does not follow normal trading requirements.

I think TS take a dim view of miss-selling.


they may

but proving it and that it wasnt a simple error, thats a different thing altogether

on the other side, my daughter wrote her car off and got landed with a £800 bill BECAUSE she wasnt offered gap insurance...

i should say that, although it looks as if "GAP" refers to the gap in the payouts, it stands for Guaranteed Auto Protection, or somesuch cobblers

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:13 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
but proving it and that it wasnt a simple error, thats a different thing altogether

That's not the way the law works.

A simple error is mitigation, not a defence.

If the salesman is selling something, then best he knows what he is selling and to whom.

The banks, bless them, are having to pay back billions due to salesmen miss-selling endowments, PPI, and any loans prior to April 2007, just because the salesmen didn't do their jobs right.

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
but proving it and that it wasnt a simple error, thats a different thing altogether

That's not the way the law works.

A simple error is mitigation, not a defence.

If the salesman is selling something, then best he knows what he is selling and to whom.

The banks, bless them, are having to pay back billions due to salesmen miss-selling endowments, PPI, and any loans prior to April 2007, just because the salesmen didn't do their jobs right.


question is, did the customer declare he was self-employed at the time of purchase?

were boxes ticked?....

the devil is ALWAYS in the detail.

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 Post subject: Re: Gap insurance
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wannabeeahack wrote:
question is, did the customer declare he was self-employed at the time of purchase?

If someone is selling you something as an add on, the onus is on the seller to ask all the questions.

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