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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:38 pm 
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I notice little or no mention throughout this thread of the most important element of the trade bar none:

The customer.

Where do taxi drivers get their money from? - The customer.

Who are taxi drivers in work to serve in order to get that money? - The customer.

Who makes the most complaints about the quality of the trade? - The customer.

Who can go elsewhere if the service is not up to standard? - The customer.

Who should the NVQ benefit the most? - The customer.

Who has everybody making a contribution to this thread had in the forefront of their minds in their posts? - It ain't the f*cking customer with the tone of most of the contributions!!!


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I notice little or no mention throughout this thread of the most important element of the trade bar none:

The customer.

Where do taxi drivers get their money from? - The customer.

Who are taxi drivers in work to serve in order to get that money? - The customer.

Who makes the most complaints about the quality of the trade? - The customer.

Who can go elsewhere if the service is not up to standard? - The customer.

Who should the NVQ benefit the most? - The customer.

Who has everybody making a contribution to this thread had in the forefront of their minds in their posts? - It ain't the f*cking customer with the tone of most of the contributions!!!


I think if the trade was to become professional the customer service would be second nature. Customer service is the basis of the NVQ course and that's what they are all complaining about. They seem to think they are already experts in customer service and without doubt some are. It is also important that the candidates feel they have achieved something from the course which is why I think it is important to have the trades opinion about the structure of the course :D

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Who has everybody making a contribution to this thread had in the forefront of their minds in their posts? - It ain't the f*cking customer with the tone of most of the contributions!!!

But how does the customer benefit by being taken from A to B by a NVQ driver, over that of a driver without a NVQ? :?

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Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


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Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


Why do you think they are woefully misunderstood. I understand customer service it's been part of my life since I've been working :D

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Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


You'll have to explain a little better. :lol:

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Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.

When you passed your driving test I bet you never crossed you hands on the steering wheel, I bet you like most of us now do that all the time.

My point is that the plus points of these courses going forward are in my mind very few.

That said I do like the idea of combining all the pre-entry criteria i.e. knowledge, DSA, literacy, etc into a BTEC. :wink:

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What I have been waiting for is this!......... Why nobody has said if Cardiff Council thinks that there can be a legal challenge on this issue then it must be the same for us!!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

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What I have been waiting for is this!......... Why nobody has said if Cardiff Council thinks that there can be a legal challenge on this issue then it must be the same for us!!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


3.3 Clearly many licensed drivers provide an excellent service to passengers and exercise good customer care skills and it would therefore be difficult to prove that an existing licence holder was not a fit and proper person without undertaking the training. It is likely that existing drivers could successfully challenge a requirement for them to undertake the training. However, it is hoped that future developments will encourage existing licence holders to take the training on a voluntary basis.

I highlighted it in bold.

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This gem is also in there;

Premier Cars a licensed private hire company have established a training arm of the company to try and improve the customer care skills of the drivers on their system. Eighty three individuals have successfully obtained the qualification on a purely voluntary basis. Dragon another licensed operator have also recently been accredited to provide the training.

It would appear the HC trade will have to pay PH to do the BTEC.....thus creating a potential monopoly?

It seems obvious your council have not looked into training at all.....the NVQ route as labourious as it is......is the only one that can offer funding.

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cabbyman wrote:
Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


The question was, how does the customer benefit? For instance, let us compare Sussex, who I assume has no NVQ and you, who I assume does have an NVQ or something similar? How would the customer benefit by travelling with you rather than Sussex?

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JD wrote:
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Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


The question was, how does the customer benefit? For instance, let us compare Sussex, who I assume has no NVQ and you, who I assume does have an NVQ or something similar? How would the customer benefit by travelling with you rather than Sussex?

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Thats a good point.....is there any proof the customer benefits after the driver has taken the course?

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captain cab wrote:
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cabbyman wrote:
Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


The question was, how does the customer benefit? For instance, let us compare Sussex, who I assume has no NVQ and you, who I assume does have an NVQ or something similar? How would the customer benefit by travelling with you rather than Sussex?

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Thats a good point.....is there any proof the customer benefits after the driver has taken the course?

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The answer to that in my case is NO my customer skills pre NVQ were impeccable and still are i just found the course to be a complete waste of my time and taxpayers money my instructor had only ben in the trade 5
minutes and ended up teaching him stuff


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lawman wrote:
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cabbyman wrote:
Because the structure of the NVQ provides for an assessment of customer service skills. Skills, which on the evidence of this thread, are woefully misunderstood.


The question was, how does the customer benefit? For instance, let us compare Sussex, who I assume has no NVQ and you, who I assume does have an NVQ or something similar? How would the customer benefit by travelling with you rather than Sussex?

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JD


Thats a good point.....is there any proof the customer benefits after the driver has taken the course?

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The answer to that in my case is NO my customer skills pre NVQ were impeccable and still are i just found the course to be a complete waste of my time and taxpayers money my instructor had only ben in the trade 5
minutes and ended up teaching him stuff


Good for you. Maybe your assessor will take that information back with him and it'll help others :D

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No he never told us that he made out he was sympathetic , i suppose the truth normally comes out in the end- so the Tand G has their snouts in the EU trough as well


That's the current situation anyway.....can't say if it was or not at the time you were spoken to though.

A good number of union men are now NVQ assessors.

I'm not sure if it's European money....I was under the impression the scheme was funded through the learning and skills council.

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Is that the same learning and skills council who recently have demolished a bunc h of college buildings and now run out of money to rebuild new ones


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