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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:38 am 
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Effective from 16th Nov 2009, according to this


http://www.oqps.gov.uk/legislation/ssi/ssi2009/draft/sdsi_9780111002568_en_1[/url]

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I hope this makes a difference,it may have come to late to help the Dundee taxi trade but lets hope it stops more gangsters from taken over offices.


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i love this bit

(c) that the holder of the licence shall take all reasonable steps to ensure that any booking taken at the relevant premises from a member of the public for the hire of a relevant vehicle results in the hire of a vehicle which is–
(i) a relevant vehicle; and
(ii) being driven by a person who holds a licence granted under section 13 of the Act(6) and that licence is in effect.”.
sounds like the end of the dodgy drivers not to mention the ops with drivers on their cabs which they dont declare


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FFS the way it reads it will take a while to decipher, part this and that.
Why dont the put it in plain English :sad:


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skippy41 wrote:
FFS the way it reads it will take a while to decipher, part this and that.
Why dont the put it in plain English :sad:

I'm afraid the higher courts don't deal in plain English. :?

But it's a start.

That said I'm not sure it deals with the cross-border issue, as all it says is a licensed operator must give work to a 'relevant vehicle', which is defined as a taxi or PH. Not a taxi or PH licensed by the same licensing authority.

Or have I missed a bit? :?

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What about this part ?

(1A) The mandatory conditions referred to in sub-paragraph (1)(a) above are–

(a) that a record be kept of every booking for the hire of a relevant vehicle taken at the relevant premises;

(b) that a record be kept of–

(i) the registration number of the vehicle which was hired as the result of a booking taken at the relevant premises; and

(ii) the name of its driver at the time of that hire


An end to seagulling.............unless a driver can say someone phoned his mobile ?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:10 am 
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stationtone wrote:
I hope this makes a difference,it may have come to late to help the Dundee taxi trade but lets hope it stops more gangsters from taken over offices.


well its to late to stop any gangster types stationtone they already have there feet in the door and they always use a clean front men to head up the company thats why they are having to change the law to deal with the problem a bit late IMO the long hand of the law has nothing on them or the would have shut them down bye now

this is the first shot in a all out push to clean the game up and it,s going to be a long long game more changes are on the way but the law and gov move that slow


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Some might say the best way to remove criminal elements from the trade is to allow all drivers to become owner-operators


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Sussex wrote:
That said I'm not sure it deals with the cross-border issue, as all it says is a licensed operator must give work to a 'relevant vehicle', which is defined as a taxi or PH. Not a taxi or PH licensed by the same licensing authority.


The new powers will make it easier to check that this is being adhered to:

    (CGSA) 21(1) If any person -

    (a) operates, or permits the operation of, a taxi within an area in respect of which its operation requires to be but is not licensed or the driver
    requires to be but is not licensed; or
    (b) picks up passengers in, or permits passengers to be picked up by, a
    private hire car within an area in respect of which its operation requires
    to be but is not licensed or the driver requires to be but is not licensed, that person shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £2,500.
    (2) Subsection (1) above does not apply to the operation of a taxi or private hire car within an area in respect of which its operation or its driver is not licensed if the request for its hiring was received by its driver (otherwise than in a public place from the person to be conveyed in it, or a person acting on his behalf, for a journey beginning there and then) whilst -
    (a) in the area or in that part thereof in respect of which its operation and
    its driver are licensed;
    (b) engaged on hire on a journey which began in that area or part or will
    end there; or
    (c) returning to that area or part immediately following completion of a
    journey on hire.


Also, couldn't councils attach a condition to these licences, to the effect that only vehicles licenced by the same council be operated?

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Paisley Buddie wrote:
Some might say the best way to remove criminal elements from the trade is to allow all drivers to become owner-operators


I 100% agree, then they could de-restrict numbers everywhere and bring in strict quality controls


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skippy41 wrote:
Paisley Buddie wrote:
Some might say the best way to remove criminal elements from the trade is to allow all drivers to become owner-operators


I 100% agree, then they could de-restrict numbers everywhere and bring in strict quality controls


you are having a laugh aint you :?: :?: :?: :?:

sounds a great idea to let the local godfather buy as many plates as he wants and flood the market and force the guys like you and me out of the game or to work longer hours to make ends meet and what about the base units remember he has money to clean

sad to say that most dont understand whats going on out there the PH and Taxi trade is a easy way to launder money and traffic what ever you want.


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chipper wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Paisley Buddie wrote:
Some might say the best way to remove criminal elements from the trade is to allow all drivers to become owner-operators


I 100% agree, then they could de-restrict numbers everywhere and bring in strict quality controls


you are having a laugh aint you :?: :?: :?: :?:

sounds a great idea to let the local godfather buy as many plates as he wants and flood the market and force the guys like you and me out of the game or to work longer hours to make ends meet and what about the base units remember he has money to clean

sad to say that most dont understand whats going on out there the PH and Taxi trade is a easy way to launder money and traffic what ever you want.


If everyone was an owner operator there would be no need for a base, just use your cab like I do, using call divert, i have survived for 29 years this way, with a mixture of phone and street work


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chipper wrote:

you are having a laugh aint you :?: :?: :?: :?:

sounds a great idea to let the local godfather buy as many plates as he wants and flood the market and force the guys like you and me out of the game or to work longer hours to make ends meet and what about the base units remember he has money to clean

sad to say that most dont understand whats going on out there the PH and Taxi trade is a easy way to launder money and traffic what ever you want.


flood the market?????
with what chipper! empty cabs that sit at his door??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

btw thier is no local godfathers or otherwise stop reading the gutter press.


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Does anyone know of a business that has entry to it curtailed other than taxis & chemists ?


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chipper wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Paisley Buddie wrote:
Some might say the best way to remove criminal elements from the trade is to allow all drivers to become owner-operators


I 100% agree, then they could de-restrict numbers everywhere and bring in strict quality controls


you are having a laugh aint you :?: :?: :?: :?:

sounds a great idea to let the local godfather buy as many plates as he wants and flood the market and force the guys like you and me out of the game or to work longer hours to make ends meet and what about the base units remember he has money to clean

sad to say that most dont understand whats going on out there the PH and Taxi trade is a easy way to launder money and traffic what ever you want.


There would be little to gain from accumulating plates in an unrestricted market, chipper and anyone doing it would stick out like a sore thumb.

These new powers will give councils, police and taxman all he needs to check any aspect of any booking operation, including 1 or 2 vehicle operations.

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