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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:49 am 
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Further to the post I made asking for advice on the Skoda for my son, would you go for the auto or manual?
Does it matter much - any reasons to avoid the auto? Or is it just personal preference.
He's been driving an automatic Renault Espace on private contracts and has come to like the auto. What would you recommend?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:06 am 
fairwaydriver wrote:
Further to the post I made asking for advice on the Skoda for my son, would you go for the auto or manual?
Does it matter much - any reasons to avoid the auto? Or is it just personal preference.
He's been driving an automatic Renault Espace on private contracts and has come to like the auto. What would you recommend?


For better fuel consumption I'd go for the manual.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:01 am 
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fairwaydriver wrote:
Further to the post I made asking for advice on the Skoda for my son, would you go for the auto or manual?
Does it matter much - any reasons to avoid the auto? Or is it just personal preference.
He's been driving an automatic Renault Espace on private contracts and has come to like the auto. What would you recommend?


What is a private contract?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:20 am 
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Go for the Skoda with DSG box and he can have the best of both worlds without loss of MPG the dogs apparently and no clutch peddle :D


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grandad wrote:
fairwaydriver wrote:
Further to the post I made asking for advice on the Skoda for my son, would you go for the auto or manual?
Does it matter much - any reasons to avoid the auto? Or is it just personal preference.
He's been driving an automatic Renault Espace on private contracts and has come to like the auto. What would you recommend?


What is a private contract?


dont be nosey, its private....

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The 'private contract' actually refers to a job he had driving a courtesy car for a casino. He was doing this on a wage, 8 hours a night temporary while the regular guy was away.


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fairwaydriver wrote:
The 'private contract' actually refers to a job he had driving a courtesy car for a casino. He was doing this on a wage, 8 hours a night temporary while the regular guy was away.


Doesn't that require a licensed vehicle and operator now?

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gusmac wrote:
fairwaydriver wrote:
The 'private contract' actually refers to a job he had driving a courtesy car for a casino. He was doing this on a wage, 8 hours a night temporary while the regular guy was away.


Doesn't that require a licensed vehicle and operator now?

Yes.

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gusmac wrote:
fairwaydriver wrote:
The 'private contract' actually refers to a job he had driving a courtesy car for a casino. He was doing this on a wage, 8 hours a night temporary while the regular guy was away.


Doesn't that require a licensed vehicle and operator now?



mmmmm, another grey area?

do the passengers part with money for that service?

or does the casino/hotel get told to plate up, then decide to plate 10 vehicles and you have more competition on the road.....

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If the vehicle is owned by the casino and the driver is employed by the casino and the punters do not pay anything for the service then surely no license is needed.
I know that Spearmint Rhinos in Birmingham used to have their own stretched limo that was used in this way. Punters would ring the club and the club would send the car, free.

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If the vehicle is owned by the casino and the driver is employed by the casino and the punters do not pay anything for the service then surely no license is needed.
I know that Spearmint Rhinos in Birmingham used to have their own stretched limo that was used in this way. Punters would ring the club and the club would send the car, free.


if its over 9 passenger seats then the driver would need a full D1 licence, irrespective of wether its H&R or not as he is not a volunteer

well he might be but i doubt it...

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grandad wrote:
If the vehicle is owned by the casino and the driver is employed by the casino and the punters do not pay anything for the service then surely no license is needed.
I know that Spearmint Rhinos in Birmingham used to have their own stretched limo that was used in this way. Punters would ring the club and the club would send the car, free.


If the casino profit in any way from the operation (e.g. the passengers play the tables/ slot machines or buy drinks/ food in the casino) isn't this considered the same as a hotel courtesy bus?
I was under the impression this required a licensed vehicle/operator and driver in England and Wales since January last year.

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Having seen a few of the casino totty brigade id take that job and hope it lasted....

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grandad wrote:
If the vehicle is owned by the casino and the driver is employed by the casino and the punters do not pay anything for the service then surely no license is needed.

If the casino are offering that service to non-customers then it's ok, if they are only offering that service to casino customers then they are gaining a benefit, thus a license(s) is needed. :D

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