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 Post subject: My kind of council
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:21 pm 
Renewal of taxi licence refused

A taxi operator whose vehicle had what one councillor described as the worst list of faults he had seen for a long time, had an application for renewal of his licence refused by Dundee City Council’s licensing committee today.

The council’s plant and vehicle officer had formally objected to the renewal application by George Aimer on the basis that his inability to maintain his vehicle in a satisfactory manner meant he was no longer a fit and proper person to hold a licence.

A report on a test carried out on the nine-year-old London-style Fairway taxi recorded more than 15 defects, 10 of which were judged to be serious.

Solicitor Wilson McMichael, appearing for Mr Aimer, said his client had put the vehicle into a local garage prior to the test to have any defects attended to.

He argued this was a situation where Mr Aimer had relied on professionals to maintain the vehicle and had been let down.

“Mr Aimer has been let down by a garage that has done shoddy work and faces the loss of his livelihood as a result,” Mr McMichael said.

Urging the committee not to refuse the application Mr McMichael said the vehicle had since passed the test.

Moving refusal of the application, Councillor John Corrigan said “This is an extremely serious list of faults; one of the worst I have seen for a long time.”

Lord Provost John Letford seconded the motion and the committee agreed unanimously.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:37 pm 
Bring on more WAVS,so that eventually we can all drive the vehicles,that
Mr Aimer preferred to drive.
Tip of the iceberg,more Wav due on,more heaps in a few years.
Mr Young still waiting on the sidelines to take all the business in Dundee and leave you lot BUST.

Sideline.


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 Post subject: Re: My kind of council
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:39 pm 
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Renewal of taxi licence refused

A taxi operator whose vehicle had what one councillor described as the worst list of faults he had seen for a long time, had an application for renewal of his licence refused by Dundee City Council’s licensing committee today.

The council’s plant and vehicle officer had formally objected to the renewal application by George Aimer on the basis that his inability to maintain his vehicle in a satisfactory manner meant he was no longer a fit and proper person to hold a licence.

A report on a test carried out on the nine-year-old London-style Fairway taxi recorded more than 15 defects, 10 of which were judged to be serious.

Solicitor Wilson McMichael, appearing for Mr Aimer, said his client had put the vehicle into a local garage prior to the test to have any defects attended to.

He argued this was a situation where Mr Aimer had relied on professionals to maintain the vehicle and had been let down.

“Mr Aimer has been let down by a garage that has done shoddy work and faces the loss of his livelihood as a result,” Mr McMichael said.

Urging the committee not to refuse the application Mr McMichael said the vehicle had since passed the test.

Moving refusal of the application, Councillor John Corrigan said “This is an extremely serious list of faults; one of the worst I have seen for a long time.”

Lord Provost John Letford seconded the motion and the committee agreed unanimously.
YOUR KIND OF COUNCIL,CLOSE THE LIST,NOW.
150 new Wavs for 150 wheelchair non transferable customers.
Does not equate.
Have a life


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:36 pm 
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I think the point made by the council is quite valid. If a driver can't keep his motor up to scratch, then he isn't fit and proper.

And if he isn't fit and proper, then he shouldn't have a license.

A lesson to us all. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:36 am 
Sussex wrote:
I think the point made by the council is quite valid. If a driver can't keep his motor up to scratch, then he isn't fit and proper.

And if he isn't fit and proper, then he shouldn't have a license.

A lesson to us all. :wink:


A famous large bus company has been b4 the traffic commissioner 3 times and 170 licences taken.

lists include a bus involved in an accident did not have a test certificate.

A taxi driver has justification in leaving mechanical matters to others indeed I do, his claims should have been checked.

he should not have lost his licence without a seccond chance

sussex you are wrong.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:35 am 
Sussex wrote:
I think the point made by the council is quite valid. If a driver can't keep his motor up to scratch, then he isn't fit and proper.

And if he isn't fit and proper, then he shouldn't have a license.

A lesson to us all. :wink:
It is not a requirement of any council I know that the proprietor of a Hackney Carriage or Private Hire Vehicle should be a qualified Vehicle Examiner so the term "fit and proper "should not come into it.
In 12 years of being in this crazy business I have always taken my cars to an M.O.T station for checking prior to my council test. On a couple of occasions the guys at the council have drawn my attention to a couple of items which had passed the M.O.T but I have never had a plate removed and have always rectified any known faults before the all-important council test.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:53 am 
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Sussex wrote:
I think the point made by the council is quite valid. If a driver can't keep his motor up to scratch, then he isn't fit and proper.

And if he isn't fit and proper, then he shouldn't have a license.

A lesson to us all. :wink:
It is not a requirement of any council I know that the proprietor of a Hackney Carriage or Private Hire Vehicle should be a qualified Vehicle Examiner so the term "fit and proper "should not come into it.
In 12 years of being in this crazy business I have always taken my cars to an M.O.T station for checking prior to my council test. On a couple of occasions the guys at the council have drawn my attention to a couple of items which had passed the M.O.T but I have never had a plate removed and have always rectified any known faults before the all-important council test.


But in some authorities you must proove you have the required recourses to maintain a taxi.

I aggree with you though that this case should have been more carefully looked into.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:26 am 
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A taxi driver has justification in leaving mechanical matters to others indeed I do, his claims should have been checked.

he should not have lost his licence without a seccond chance

The one reponsible is the one driving.
Do Kwik fit get the blame when you have bald tyres?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:28 am 
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It is not a requirement of any council I know that the proprietor of a Hackney Carriage or Private Hire Vehicle should be a qualified Vehicle Examiner so the term "fit and proper "should not come into it.

So you only check your motor at councils testing time. This in a trade that does up to 50/60/70 miles a year.
I suspect the mileometer gets the blame when you get done for speeding.

Typical of this trade, its never your fault. :sad:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:28 pm 
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Anonymous wrote:
A taxi driver has justification in leaving mechanical matters to others indeed I do, his claims should have been checked.

he should not have lost his licence without a seccond chance

The one reponsible is the one driving.
Do Kwik fit get the blame when you have bald tyres?


No they dont, again we go from, one thing to the lengths of stupidity, and its people like you that give the trade its bad name.

tyres are not mechanical matters but you are probably too thick to see that as well.

I could explain to you exactly how and when the taxis are checked but it has [edited by admin] all to do with you.

mind your own buisness,


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:02 pm 
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See this is were this trade gives the real world a bad image.

We all belly-ache when un-licensed vehicle flout the law, but say that when we do it, we should be immune.

Let's all sort out our own navel first. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:59 am 
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We all belly-ache when un-licensed vehicle flout the law, but say that when we do it, we should be immune.



Yes, no grassing allowed, at least according to the criminals on here :)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:02 am 
"Among the defects were instances of corrosion which had weakened the vehicle body, steering box leaking fluid, brake problems which could cause the vehicle to swerve or lead to abnormal breaking, a tyre fouling on the subframe, an insecure fuel pipe and an insecure high level brake light which was held on with tape."


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In that respect, he should be prosecuted under health and safety rules. :sad:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:17 pm 
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Isn't that the same George Aimer who had the lead letter in tonight's Tele entitled "DON'T KNOCK DUNDEE"

He even manages to mention the fact that he's been a cab driver in the city for 20 years, which you would think he would have gone out of his way not to mention - yes, "Dundee has a lot of which to be proud".

Let's see, Mr Aimer lives on Kinghorne Road. A few months ago a couple of blokes chased a guy from a flat in Kinghorne Road and murdered him.

This was close to the kids' playpark in Rosebank Street where a few months before that someone else was murdered.

At the junction of Kinghorne Road/Strathmartine Road someone else was murdered a few years ago outside a pub.

Not far from there, a few years ago a guy was murderd in a multi-story block and his head was found on the Law Hill, not far from Kinghorne Road.

Not far from the top of Kinghorne Road and on the aforementioned Law Hill, a few years ago a woman out walking her dog was killed by some teenage loony tune who stabbed her umpteen times.

Yes Mr Aimer, apart from 'a wee dram or two', Dundee folk are the 'salt of the earth'.

Mind you, we should perhaps take Mr Aimer's letters with a large pinch of salt. A year before his London-style cab was found to have all the defects, he wrote in the Tele:

"But I would urge anyone thinking of putting a black cab on the road to do so as a good second hand one will still last longer than most saloons."

Quite.

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