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We are a general union with a Taxi and Private Hire drivers section.

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So how many taxi & PH members do you have and don't you find it a conflict of interest representing them both :?

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Associations are a step in the right direction but to solidify your influence and obtain your legitimate requirements, you cant beat the GMB


So can I take it you don't think much of the likes of the NTA then?

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Most of our members pay £10.65 per month, our union has 650,000 members



£83,070,000 per annum. Nice little earner. :wink:

I wouldn't pay jacksh*t for a union that cares more for plate barons than drivers. 8)

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We are a general union with a Taxi and Private Hire drivers section.

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So how many taxi & PH members do you have and don't you find it a conflict of interest representing them both :?

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Associations are a step in the right direction but to solidify your influence and obtain your legitimate requirements, you cant beat the GMB


So can I take it you don't think much of the likes of the NTA then?


I would estimate that we have some 6000 members. Our National policy for both H/C & P/H is the limatation of vehicle licenses, opposing market forces. In other words the correct number of vehicles for the number of jobs available. We have no problem representing H/C & P/H, we see the unification of both sides of the trade, with clear demarcation lines as the way forward.

I have the greatest respect for the NTA, I have met many of their officials and have always found them knowledable. I believe that the author of the quote you have listed was saying that due to the lack of resources and political strength, drivers would better served being part of a large trade union that has the financial resources to employ full time & part time officers who have the time to deal with drivers issues. Also would a local authority prefer to be confronted by a local association or a large national trade union?

I hope that answers your questions.

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Most of our members pay £10.65 per month, our union has 650,000 members



£83,070,000 per annum. Nice little earner. :wink:

I wouldn't pay jacksh*t for a union that cares more for plate barons than drivers. 8)


Mr Gusmac,

Your opinion is noted and dismissed as pure speculation with no evidance of what you have written. If I believed you were interested in making every drivers working life better I would explain our policies further, your posts indicate otherwise.
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Most of our members pay £10.65 per month, our union has 650,000 members



£83,070,000 per annum. Nice little earner. :wink:

I wouldn't pay jacksh*t for a union that cares more for plate barons than drivers. 8)


Mr Gusmac,

Your opinion is noted and dismissed as pure speculation with no evidance of what you have written. If I believed you were interested in making every drivers working life better I would explain our policies further, your posts indicate otherwise.
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Well BB here is a theory, that affects all drivers, the minimum wage, as the rest of the Uk's working population receives it what makes taxi and PH driver different.
Why are you and ell tell not fighting that corner, or is that priority just a hindrance to the union :?:


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Our National policy for both H/C & P/H is the limatation of vehicle licenses


You can't limit vehicle licences on PH so that's neither use nor ornament. In fact what can you do for PH? I get concerned when people are, how shall I say it, erm I know 'Jack of all trades and master of none'

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no collections to enrich some bleeding lawyer and help buy his house in the Bahamas.

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would better served being part of a large trade union that has the financial resources to employ full time & part time officers who have the time to deal with drivers issues


I find these to be one in the same thing

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Also would a local authority prefer to be confronted by a local association or a large national trade union?


I'm going to have a wild guess, well it's not so wild really, but local authorities prefer not to be confronted by anybody. They do however like to discuss matters with people who are aware of the full situation and are knowledge of the matters to be discussed. You are still suggesting that the likes of the NTA are not much use. I find this kind of wierd when you are happy to discuss matters with them at MoM where I see you were tagged together with the NTTG is this one in the same union :?

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that due to the lack of resources and political strength, drivers would better served being part of a large trade union


Can you tell us exactly how much of the GMB resources and revenue brought in by the trade was spent on issues dealing with the trade for the last few years :?

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Most of our members pay £10.65 per month, our union has 650,000 members



£83,070,000 per annum. Nice little earner. :wink:

I wouldn't pay jacksh*t for a union that cares more for plate barons than drivers. 8)


Mr Gusmac,

Your opinion is noted and dismissed as pure speculation with no evidance of what you have written. If I believed you were interested in making every drivers working life better I would explain our policies further, your posts indicate otherwise.
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Fact 1 Limited plates mean drivers with no choice but to rent.

Fact 2 Renting costs more than owning. Extra costs mean more working hours, not less.

Fact 3 Limiting plates does not limit drivers, nor competition. Cabs just get used by more drivers.

Fact 4 Limited plates creates an artificial market value for these plates.
Where there is a market, some will try to corner it by buying up the plates and renting out vehicles to those with no choice.

But, by all means, ignore the issue if it makes you uncomfortable.

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Desk driving will always pay well, plus a free car from the GTC.

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Why are you and ell tell not fighting that corner, or is that priority just a hindrance to the union :?:

In all fairness if it wasn't for their lot no-one would have a minimum wage.

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Can you tell us exactly how much of the GMB resources and revenue brought in by the trade was spent on issues dealing with the trade for the last few years :?

If he told you the GMB currently spends more money on the Professional Drivers Branch than they receive, would you believe him. :?

But from the information I have seen, it's true. :shock:

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Sussex....... should now be....... Brother Sussex... :lol:

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Sussex....... should now be....... Brother Sussex... :lol:

She asked a valid question, and I gave her an honest answer.

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Sussex....... should now be....... Brother Sussex... :lol:

She asked a valid question, and I gave her an honest answer.

I was only teasing.... comrade :lol:

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Sussex....... should now be....... Brother Sussex... :lol:

She asked a valid question, and I gave her an honest answer.

I was only teasing.... comrade :lol:

I know. :wink:

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Can you tell us exactly how much of the GMB resources and revenue brought in by the trade was spent on issues dealing with the trade for the last few years :?

If he told you the GMB currently spends more money on the Professional Drivers Branch than they receive, would you believe him. :?

But from the information I have seen, it's true. :shock:


What exactly do they spend it on? Recruitment, training, wages, bribes, court cases.......... I'm sure the list is endless but I'd like to know.

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