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PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:10 pm 
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Can I ask if there is any other national association/union that has written to Tendring council in relation to their crap policy of suspending folks for not parking properly?

Can I ask if there is any other national association/union that has written to Kirklees/Southend/York and a few other councils in relation to them not knowing the workings of the 1976 Act.

Can I ask if there is any other national association/union that has written to Derby council in relation to them not knowing an engine is needed to license a PH?

Can I ask if there is any other national association/union that has written to the Rail Regulator in relation to the 'abuse of a dominate position' by many, if not all, of the rail operators?

Can I ask if there is any other national association/union that has written to the CRB folks/Home Office asking for clarification as to whether we are all going to have to pay for yet another background check in relation to the ISA system?


You may ask but if the current state of replies is anything to go by it will be you answering yourself.

Can I ask how many associations/unions are actually on this site :?

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Clacton have made a enquiry through a third party.

I understand the response went down the line of the council knowing the driver would be fit and proper after 28 days, the driver is licensed on fitness and propriety, therefore how do they know he's going to be fit and proper after 28 days?

Additionally does a parking violation constitute such a harsh sentence?

There is a lack of rank space within the area and the council have no intention of increasing rank space, indeed it is alleged an ex london cab driver is a council member and he is allegedly opposed to the local hackney carriage trade.

There does not appear to be any worthwhile dialogue between the council and the trade.

But apart from that they aint members.

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You should be at the council to stop this illegal practice not backing a bunch of robbing bar-stewards

So all 5000 are waiting lined up in Leeds City centre waiting for street work? :?

And if it's so bad then what is the local taxi union/association doing about it? :?

At least the PH seem to be getting organised.[/quote

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You may ask but if the current state of replies is anything to go by it will be you answering yourself.

Well at least I will get a truthful response.

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Can I ask how many associations/unions are actually on this site :?

There are members of the NTA, the NPHA, the T&G, the NTTG, NALEO, the IoL and various local associations on here. The fact that most choose to read rather than post is down to them.

But even if they don't like putting their views across on here, there are plenty of bland pages in the trade press than can be replaced.

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But apart from that they aint members.

Do drivers have to be members for the NTA to write to the local press saying what a shower the local council are? :?

Ten minutes filling in an on-line letters section.

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yes to1

Remind me who in the London PH trade is one of the biggest anti-tout spokesman?

Surely not Che Flanagan? :shock:

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But apart from that they aint members.

Do drivers have to be members for the NTA to write to the local press saying what a shower the local council are? :?

Ten minutes filling in an on-line letters section.


No you're right they dont, but they dont have to join any trade association or union, I'll remind you of the figure for 500 members of a union......£63,750.00p.

Now that doesnt only buy a lot of bubbly.......it would pay for an awful number of lawyers.....and still give the people their own committee at perhaps a lower price.

If we face facts the GMB like most other bodies would prefer to see lawyers not get involved.......which still means £63,750.00p is being paid by members?

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If we face facts the GMB like most other bodies would prefer to see lawyers not get involved.......which still means £63,750.00p is being paid by members?

And if the GMB don't do the business for those drivers then that amount will soon decrease, so if anything the pressure is on the GMB. 8-[

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If we face facts the GMB like most other bodies would prefer to see lawyers not get involved.......which still means £63,750.00p is being paid by members?

And if the GMB don't do the business for those drivers then that amount will soon decrease, so if anything the pressure is on the GMB. 8-[


Sussex are you a member of the GMB. I ask this as it appears you are very defensive of them :?

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But apart from that they aint members.

Do drivers have to be members for the NTA to write to the local press saying what a shower the local council are? :?

Ten minutes filling in an on-line letters section.


If we face facts the GMB like most other bodies would prefer to see lawyers not get involved.......which still means £63,750.00p is being paid by members?

CC


Captain,

Your quite right we would not prefer to see lawyers get involved! we would prefer to spend our members money on officers who can support their members from within our industry, but just for the record the GMB have provided lawyers for members in St Albans who had their licences revoked, resulting in the members getting their licences back, we are just about to support another member in Bracknall with solicitors. The point is we can and do support our members with the best legal assistance available, because we have the resources to do so.

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If we face facts the GMB like most other bodies would prefer to see lawyers not get involved.......which still means £63,750.00p is being paid by members?

And if the GMB don't do the business for those drivers then that amount will soon decrease, so if anything the pressure is on the GMB. 8-[


Sussex are you a member of the GMB. I ask this as it appears you are very defensive of them :?

Not quite sure how you deem my post above as being defensive, it's more of a warning to the Leeds GMB hierarchy.

I've seen many drivers join up to unions/associations only for them to leave when the reason for joining has passed.

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Sussex wrote:
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If we face facts the GMB like most other bodies would prefer to see lawyers not get involved.......which still means £63,750.00p is being paid by members?

And if the GMB don't do the business for those drivers then that amount will soon decrease, so if anything the pressure is on the GMB. 8-[


Sussex are you a member of the GMB. I ask this as it appears you are very defensive of them :?

Not quite sure how you deem my post above as being defensive, it's more of a warning to the Leeds GMB hierarchy.

I've seen many drivers join up to unions/associations only for them to leave when the reason for joining has passed.


So anyway that answers halve the question :wink:

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Most of our members pay £10.65 per month, our union has 650,000 members



£83,070,000 per annum. Nice little earner. :wink:

I wouldn't pay jacksh*t for a union that cares more for plate barons than drivers. 8)


Mr Gusmac,

Your opinion is noted and dismissed as pure speculation with no evidance of what you have written. If I believed you were interested in making every drivers working life better I would explain our policies further, your posts indicate otherwise.
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Well BB here is a theory, that affects all drivers, the minimum wage, as the rest of the Uk's working population receives it what makes taxi and PH driver different.
Why are you and ell tell not fighting that corner, or is that priority just a hindrance to the union :?:


Mr Skippy,

Our National Organiser has asked me to post this response.


Skippy if your being paid less than the minimum wage and you tolerate it, good you deserve it! it would be a 2 minute job for us!!But of course we DO NOT represent NON MEMBERS complicated??


The GMB do not spend more on their Professional Drivers Branches than they receive, because we are successfull in winning cases! and supply the best benefits, including sick pay!


Plate Barons, well obviously non-organisation allowed that practice to establish itself, three guesses on the CURE???

Conflict of interest, peurile! workers in all industrys need to agree DEMARCATION, failure to do so leads to the present nonsense!

We are growing at a phenomenal rate, because our tactics and resources, along with the fringe benefits are unobtainable elsewhere!! No one can compete with the GMBPDB's we are the best by far available to all Professional Drivers [PH, Hack, Chauffeur, Courier, and associated office staff] join now or get left behind.

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