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GMB is calling for an immediate stop to be put on the issue of both private hire licenses and hackney licenses and plates.


I'll be interested to know how this scenario is played and how exactly the GMB intend to change the law so quickly so it can be achieved. I'm inclined to believe that the GMB are just offering 'lip service' so to speak

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the unacceptable attitude of licensing officers towards drivers, NVQ's and B tech qualifications


What exactly are the GMB's views of the NVQ and Btec qualification for HC & PH drivers? I have searched on your site but I can't find any :?


Can I have a reply please :D

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GMB is calling for an immediate stop to be put on the issue of both private hire licenses and hackney licenses and plates.


I'll be interested to know how this scenario is played and how exactly the GMB intend to change the law so quickly so it can be achieved. I'm inclined to believe that the GMB are just offering 'lip service' so to speak

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the unacceptable attitude of licensing officers towards drivers, NVQ's and B tech qualifications


What exactly are the GMB's views of the NVQ and Btec qualification for HC & PH drivers? I have searched on your site but I can't find any :?


Can I have a reply please :D


The GMB have never said it will change the law quickly, anyone who knows anything about our industry will know that a new Taxi/PH act is not at the top of any political party agenda. However, steps have been taken by creating a national body of trade represenatives which will enable (if they stay together) them all to work together for the interests of each groups membership. The GMB membership has its policies and the GMB elected officers will endevour to do all it can to achieve their members wishes.

With respect to NVQ-B-Tec, each area which has GMB members has its own views and follows its own policies, for example my home town membership currently welcomes both for new entrants, but opposes current drivers being involved with either.

I hope this answers your questions.

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BB you quit correct in your assumption, I am not a member, but many of your members are, and its them that's being taken advantage of.
every owner who has a driver working for him should receive the min wage regardless.
Every driver in the Borders does not receive it and because of there ultra low income they cannot even afford to join if they wanted to.
This country needs a voice that speaks for everyone and not just those who have the ability to pay to join

http://sbtn.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9.0

You may like to check this link and the reply from one of the drivers
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Plate Barons, well obviously non-organisation allowed that practice to establish itself, three guesses on the CURE???



I'm a bit confused here, plate limitation is the cause of plate barons, not the cure, and the thread title seems to be saying that the union wants to introduce the 'charter for parasites' for the benefit of its members.

Nice to see the brothers wanting to shaft other members of the trade, but I suppose the T&G have been doing it for years, so hardly surprising that the GMB have caught up with this scam.

If these people are the future of the trade then can it slow down for a minute so I can get off :lol:

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GMB is calling for an immediate stop to be put on the issue of both private hire licenses and hackney licenses and plates.


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The GMB have never said it will change the law quickly,


There is an obvious contadiction here. You are saying that the "GMB is calling for an immediate stop" but then saying "The GMB have never said it will change the law quickly"

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With respect to NVQ-B-Tec, each area which has GMB members has its own views and follows its own policies


This is a national qualification so surely you should have a united opinion regarding NVQ's at least. It appears the NVQ's were well received by the GMB initially so has something changed over the years :?

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how many associations/unions are actually on this site :?




Let’s not forget Britain’s biggest Taxi Association, the LTDA.

Hated by a few for its successes, loved by over 8300 London Taxi drivers
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Mr Skippy,

Our National Organiser has asked me to post this response.


Skippy if your being paid less than the minimum wage and you tolerate it, good you deserve it! it would be a 2 minute job for us!!But of course we DO NOT represent NON MEMBERS complicated??


The GMB do not spend more on their Professional Drivers Branches than they receive, because we are successfull in winning cases! and supply the best benefits, including sick pay!


Plate Barons, well obviously non-organisation allowed that practice to establish itself, three guesses on the CURE???

Conflict of interest, peurile! workers in all industrys need to agree DEMARCATION, failure to do so leads to the present nonsense!

We are growing at a phenomenal rate, because our tactics and resources, along with the fringe benefits are unobtainable elsewhere!! No one can compete with the GMBPDB's we are the best by far available to all Professional Drivers [PH, Hack, Chauffeur, Courier, and associated office staff] join now or get left behind.

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What a load of bollocks.
BB, do you agree with this guff? or are you allowed to have your own opinion?

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However, steps have been taken by creating a national body of trade represenatives which will enable (if they stay together) them all to work together for the interests of each groups membership.


How many plate barons are represented on the MOM, BB?

And how many drivers with no choice but to work for them have their own voice?
Plate barons don't represent their drivers' interests, only their own :roll:

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BB, do you agree with this guff? or are you allowed to have your own opinion?


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Let’s not forget Britain’s biggest Taxi Association, the LTDA.

I wouldn't dream of forgetting them, and should they become national then their standing might increase, but as they are so London, then to me they matter not. :D

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How many plate barons are represented on the MOM, BB?

75-80%. :sad:

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how many associations/unions are actually on this site :?




Let’s not forget Britain’s biggest Taxi Association, the LTDA.

Hated by a few for its successes, loved by over 8300 London Taxi drivers


Are they concerned about taxis outside London :?

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How many plate barons are represented on the MOM, BB?


As far as I'm aware there are none!

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And how many drivers with no choice but to work for them have their own voice?


The only reason drivers have no choice is because they do not join a represenative body that will support there wishes

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Plate barons don't represent their drivers' interests, only their own :roll:


Talk about stating the obvious :roll:

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How many plate barons are represented on the MOM, BB?


As far as I'm aware there are none!


You're having a laugh :lol: :lol:

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And how many drivers with no choice but to work for them have their own voice?


The only reason drivers have no choice is because they do not join a represenative body that will support there wishes



Neat trick that. You support plate barons if they are members and would support their drivers against them if they are members.

All things to all people, so long as they cough up the dues.
Very principled :shock:

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