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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:31 pm 
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QUESTION>>Ok, if JT is the poor over paying wee helpless drivers champion, then why oh why don't any of them back what he has to say then ??? Why hasen't he got their backing ???? Oh i forgot, their all stupid eh !!


Perhaps they prefer not to be binned by their owners?
It's not as if they have any job security or employment rights, is it? :shock:

Never mind, BTK. According to you they are lazy and now stupid.
You really shouldn't be worried, should you?

So why are you?
Perhaps you know that change is inevitable and are simply trying to hold back the tide, Canute style? :wink:


Am i worried ? Why should i be worried then ? If dereg were to happen, then according to Mr Taylor things will get better for Taxi Drivers. :lol:

And I'll be the first to go up to the man and congratulate him and his merry men for doing such a wonderful job in helping me make my business more profitable. But let's face it, you know and I know that just isn't going to happen. Dublin went from having around two or three thousand cabs to having eight or nine. How will that possibly help Taxi drivers in i ask ??

This isn't about helping poor drivers, this is a vendetta against anyone who has ever dared cross Mr Taylor in the past. It's as simple as that.
And what we have are a wee bunch of misfits who also have been put in their place by the trade in one way or another in the past and didn't like it, so they too follow follow. W


Utter Tosh.

Edinburgh is nothing like Dublin and you know it.

I asked already but you didn't answer - how much did you pay for your plate? and what did you use for collateral?
I think you are worried, BTK. Worried about how you will pay back the loan without a jockey to do it for you, worried about loosing your house or worried about not having that plate value for your retirement.
Me thinks your right. I dont blame him for being worried its nothing to be ashamed of, just dont like the Iam loaded /all right thanks very much attitude.


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of course he is worried and rightly so.
if you have a loan.
they have my sympathy ,in fact many of them have my pity. :lol:
but then they never admit there worried. eusasmiles.zip

and if they cant admit the problem then you can never more towards finding a solution.

its really a shrink they need.


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its really a shrink they need.


can You recommend a good one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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its really a shrink they need.


can You recommend a good one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

no unfortunately not chip

but at least youve made the first step towards recovery

go ask youre doctor


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its really a shrink they need.


can You recommend a good one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

no unfortunately not chip

but at least youve made the first step towards recovery

go ask youre doctor


i did she said to stop Listening to you LOL


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You buy in you take a chance so what at least some guys have got the bottle to take the chance oh but they are just mugs :roll: if you want to make money you take chances simple as.. you might win you might lose..


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You buy in you take a chance so what at least some guys have got the bottle to take the chance oh but they are just mugs :roll: if you want to make money you take chances simple as.. you might win you might lose..
I agree but its the ones with the high & mighty attitude that tread on you, on the way up are the ones I personally dislike. You said it ''take a chance''. Our point is your buying into a closed shop, now its an open shop were your plate is now £2.50 worth of plastic. The only buying in as you suggest is the vehicle & insurance the rest is up to you as they say. You shouldn't have to spend 20k on a plate first though. There are some that say you should. I would say there wrong.


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You buy in you take a chance so what at least some guys have got the bottle to take the chance oh but they are just mugs :roll: if you want to make money you take chances simple as.. you might win you might lose..
I agree but its the ones with the high & mighty attitude that tread on you, on the way up are the ones I personally dislike. You said it ''take a chance''. Our point is your buying into a closed shop, now its an open shop were your plate is now £2.50 worth of plastic. The only buying in as you suggest is the vehicle & insurance the rest is up to you as they say. You shouldn't have to spend 20k on a plate first though. There are some that say you should. I would say there wrong.


"20K on a first plate" if this was the case then you'd be getting off lightly - try 40+ . . . .


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I but they are going to be dropping in value very quickly the way thing are going..if i were to sell up now it would be at a loss but sh.t happens eh


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chipper wrote:
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its really a shrink they need.


can You recommend a good one :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

no unfortunately not chip

but at least youve made the first step towards recovery

go ask youre doctor


i did she said to stop Listening to you LOL


im flattered you mentioned me to youre doctor.

i must have made some impact on you then. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Why is it that ppl still cannot grasp that in a dereg situation that many ppl will take up the option to become a HC owner, and this leads to over supply, which leads to £300pw costs and £100pw earnings, time and again I read this and it strikes me that the most of you dereg supporters seem to think if we can get it opened up and slip in and shut it again before it becomes untenable we'll be ok, the very reason you desire a HC is to break free from radio circuits that ask outrageous amounts to lease a radio that might supply work, given this fact, and it is a fact or you'd be quite happy to stay doing what you are already doing, you must appreciate the reason you aren't doing that well is because Mr Greedy who owns the firm is flooding you with more cars even though he hasn't the work for them, if the cab trade needs freshening up it's some new regs to prevent PH companies having more cars than work, then we might see the end of illegal plying and things might improve for all, as said earlier, if you want to go Indy and work the streets and have a chance of earning a living then the only real way is to step up to the plate and splash some cash, any other way and you will find yourself with a 30k vehicle and 500 cars waiting infront of you for the hourly £3.50p job.


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Why is it that ppl still cannot grasp that in a dereg situation that many ppl will take up the option to become a HC owner, and this leads to over supply.


Why do some not grasp that in places with good quality control of drivers, this will not happen?
Someone can have as many cabs as they want but without drivers to drive them, they are useless. Just unused vehicles sitting around doing nothing.
Cabs don't earn money - drivers do. Cabs are just the tools of the trade.
You can't have an oversupply of cabs. You can have an oversupply of drivers.
Do joiners make less money if there are too many hammers or an oversupply of saws?

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Why is it that ppl still cannot grasp that in a dereg situation that many ppl will take up the option to become a HC owner, and this leads to over supply.


Why do some not grasp that in places with good quality control of drivers, this will not happen?
Someone can have as many cabs as they want but without drivers to drive them, they are useless. Just unused vehicles sitting around doing nothing.
Cabs don't earn money - drivers do. Cabs are just the tools of the trade.
You can't have an oversupply of cabs. You can have an oversupply of drivers.
Do joiners make less money if there are too many hammers or an oversupply of saws?




Because there is no quality control, never has been never will be, it's the same issue with a driving licence, many ppl hold one who simply cannot drive to save their own life, cabs rely on punters, there are only so many punters, once the scales tip that there are more cabs than punters all the strokes come out, this leads to unsafe practice and also pedal jockying to get back for another job because it's so quiet, or to put it simply, 1500 drowned on the Titanic, and why? because there was too many of one thing and not enough of the other.


To answer the have too many cars and no drivers, this is a common practice of double glazing sales, promise the earth, let the driver pay in without anything for himself until he works it out and then have another renewable source mug waiting to take his turn at wasting his time for 3 weeks without a wage, add in the ppl who employ foreigner slaves who drive all week for a room in a shared house and a bite to eat, you're only seeing things in a Utopian sort of way mate, where everyone abides by rules, as you should be aware that way of life hasn't arrived yet.


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Because there is no quality control, never has been never will be,


That may be the case where you are, but not everywhere.
This is the issue your local trade need to address. By the sounds of things, it should have been done a long time ago.

Consider this:
If your council capped the number of HC licences tomorrow, what difference do you think it would make to the situation that you have now?

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Because there is no quality control, never has been never will be,


That may be the case where you are, but not everywhere.
This is the issue your local trade need to address. By the sounds of things, it should have been done a long time ago.

Consider this:
If your council capped the number of HC licences tomorrow, what difference do you think it would make to the situation that you have now?



1 - that's a very good point you make there, sadly our LO's appear to be either being puppeteered from above or scared of someone.


2 - We are capped, we went uncapped for a few years and ended up with 83 more mouths to feed, it doesn't work, you can't get on ranks, ettiquette goes out the window, earnings tumble, my average job time last night (Sat) was 45 mins per job, I took what I was taking on PH 20 years ago, only my costs are 4x higher now, trust me if I thought there was any benefit to the working cabby I'd welcome it, but all it is is another way to get the unemployment figures down a bit and an easy street to find the migrant ppl something to do, which also isn't helping as they sleep in the car and work 18 hr days, which in turn will ensure I need a tacho eventually and that's another £500 I don't need to spend.


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