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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 2:36 pm 
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http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/taxidriverswage/


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due to a loop hole in the tax system nearly every taxi driver who drives a taxi for an owner, does not receive the minimum wage. most receive a percentage of the takings. taxi owners claim there drivers are self employed when the driver does not own the vehicle or any of the equipment, this needs to be stopped now as some drivers are having to work in excess of 70 hours a week putting there lives and the publics at risk


There is no loophole, its fiction.

Drivers dont HAVE to do anything, if they WERE self-employed they dictate when they work!

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:35 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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due to a loop hole in the tax system nearly every taxi driver who drives a taxi for an owner, does not receive the minimum wage. most receive a percentage of the takings. taxi owners claim there drivers are self employed when the driver does not own the vehicle or any of the equipment, this needs to be stopped now as some drivers are having to work in excess of 70 hours a week putting there lives and the publics at risk


There is no loophole, its fiction.

Drivers dont HAVE to do anything, if they WERE self-employed they dictate when they work!
There are some drivers who do a shift for a company in a company vehicle. I suspect these drivers would come under this law. The company would say they are self employed, but in reality they are employed & the tax man knows it. It is the responsibility of an employer to make sure all their employees receive the minimum wage & pay their drivers NI contributions as well.


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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:40 pm 
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the "I realise i am responsible for my own tax an N.I. contributions" dodge doesnt wash, and i know a guy who HMRC caned for £50K resulting in him selling up and ending up with nothing, so be warned


Basic checks to help you decide

You can usually work out your employment status by asking a few straightforward questions.

You are probably self-employed if you:

* run your own business and take responsibility for its success or failure
* have several customers at the same time
* can decide how, when and where you do your work
* are free to hire other people to do the work for you or help you at your own expense
* provide the main items of equipment to do your work

You are probably employed if you:

* have to do the work yourself
* work for one person at a time, who is in charge of what you do and takes on the risks of the business
* can be told how, when and where you do your work
* have to work a set amount of hours
* are paid a regular amount according to the hours you work, and get paid for working overtime - even if you do casual or part-time work, you can still be employed

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:43 pm 
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Btw, that petition?

I often pick hairs but if it is going to HMG.....

get the spelling correct

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due to a loop hole in the tax system nearly every taxi driver who drives a taxi for an owner, does not receive the minimum wage. most receive a percentage of the takings. taxi owners claim there drivers are self employed when the driver does not own the vehicle or any of the equipment, this needs to be stopped now as some drivers are having to work in excess of 70 hours a week putting there lives and the publics at risk

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:15 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
the "I realise i am responsible for my own tax an N.I. contributions" dodge doesnt wash, and i know a guy who HMRC caned for £50K resulting in him selling up and ending up with nothing, so be warned


Basic checks to help you decide

You can usually work out your employment status by asking a few straightforward questions.

You are probably self-employed if you:

* run your own business and take responsibility for its success or failure
* have several customers at the same time
* can decide how, when and where you do your work
* are free to hire other people to do the work for you or help you at your own expense
* provide the main items of equipment to do your work

You are probably employed if you:

* have to do the work yourself
* work for one person at a time, who is in charge of what you do and takes on the risks of the business
* can be told how, when and where you do your work
* have to work a set amount of hours
* are paid a regular amount according to the hours you work, and get paid for working overtime - even if you do casual or part-time work, you can still be employed
I know a company who pay a third /per job, They provide the car, do all the maintainance, pay the insurance & plate. They are emplyoying in all but name. The owner also is dodging the vat man because he is handling 100k+ per year.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:25 am 
I think this is dangerous myself, surely anyone whose cabbing and earning less that a fiver ph over the course of a week is gonna know it's time to find a new job, the whole way things were set up for payin's was fuel and 50/50 from the remains, or 60/40 in the firms favour but firm pays the fuel, or fixed amount each week which is a gamble if the driver so wants to risk it, the whole problem is too many cabs full stop, until numbers drop earning it will remain hard.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:28 am 
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Stop it you're going to burst Skips bubble :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:51 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/taxidriverswage/


As I'm both the Taxis owner and driver, do I get to sign it?


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GBC wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/taxidriverswage/


As I'm both the Taxis owner and driver, do I get to sign it?


have you declared both incomes for the purposes of claiming WFTC though?

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:27 pm 
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What? :?


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:44 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
GBC wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/taxidriverswage/


As I'm both the Taxis owner and driver, do I get to sign it?


have you declared both incomes for the purposes of claiming WFTC though?
Thats got his attention wannabe! I notice he said Taxis plaurel. He is saying that he is no longer self-employed & maybe just paying sole-trader tax???


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:18 pm 
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Another screwed up petition :roll:

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I'd like the minimum wage and I'm an owner ffs! :twisted:

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I see 5 have signed.... only another 250,000 + to go :lol:

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