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The case the other week may be relevent. As I understand it the court dismissed the charge of operating without a license because it was proved that the vehicle was hired from one company and the chauffeur was hired independantly from another company. The customer and the rest of the party were all interviewed on 3 seperate occasions and all confirmed that this was the case. The customer had 2 seperate contracts, one for the hire of the vehicle and one for the employment of the chauffeur. Vosa had the option of an appeal but decided against it.

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Grandad,

There you are

case law

almost

so long as 2 "hirings" are proveable (1 for the car, 1 for the driver) its all hunky dory

end of.

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

If someone is found, or in this case deemed to be, innocent due to insufficient evidence, then VOSA don't have the option to appeal anything.

The case is not made, thus the accused isn't guilty of the offence. However that doesn't mean an offence didn't happen.

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IDFIMH

Not sure an offence not making court is now classed as 'case law'.

As I mentioned in the thread about this situation when it arose, Sir Alex Ferguson got off a speeding ticket due to him needing to go to the loo. That doesn't mean that excess speeding is now legal.

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IDFIMH

The court case had been running for 1 1/2 days as I understand things and the only evidence provided by VOSA showed that the chap was working within the law. You just don't want to see that it is legal if done right.

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Grandad,

Seat belts wouldnt me much cope....its those long Side facing bench seats in it...just like a bunch of squaddies sitting in 10 ton Truck...

I cant see how 10 seater with that type of seating could be given a PCV (minibus) licence ..thats if it had one.

Because I don't believe it is.

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IDFIMH

There are quite a few limos that have a COIF and are licensed to work for hire and reward with side facing seats. This particular vehicle is self drive so it does not need a license.

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Grandad,

If it doesn't need a licence how do they keep check that it's safe Doesn't it need to have seatbelts then cos it's side facing

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

There is no requirement to have seatbelts fitted to side or rear facing seats at the moment. However if fitted they must be working and should be used.

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Grandad,

Thank you

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

its the "self Drive" bit thats confusing..did they have a mate drive it or a driver from the company they hired it from....in which case it wasnt self drive...

You have to get a driver who has nothing to do with the company supplying the limo, and if you are paying him you must pay him separately.
This is where the scam gets interesting.
It's self-drive but they won't let you or your mate drive it.
They should tell you that they can't supply a driver (while handing you a sheet of drivers names and phone numbers )
They will probably tell you some old tosh about how the insurance will only allow drivers with a PCV licence (even though it's not actually a PCV motor) and x many years experience as a proctologist, wearing different coloured socks and born during an eclipse of the moon etc etc blah blah - anything to stop you supplying a driver they don't want.
If they are less concerned about the niceties of the law, they will just organise the driver and have him bill you separately.
All very legit, I'm sure

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And that question is the one that will be the downfall of this particular scam.

I mean it's been mentioned that this hummer had petrol & gas canisters on-board, and how does anyone know that the driver isn't a pervert?

Let's hope VOSA take a good look at this one, especially, as I'm led to believe, one of the founders of this scam is involved.

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IDFIMH

I don't think it had gas "canisters" on board. It has had a gas conversion like many other vehicles. If the driver has been sourced from a chauffeur agency I would think that he has had a CRB check.
What do mean "led to believe"? You know very well that Craig is one of the pioneers behind the self drive system. You have been trying to discredit him for long enough!

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Grandad,