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By the way did you see me going through Lichfield in my pink limo last night or did I pass through un-noticed. :mrgreen:


A pink limo how fab if I ever get down there can I have ride, please :D


Of course you can and as it's run on a restricted PCV license, you can even have a drive if you like.


wont she need a d1 licence?..


No. It is an 8 passenger vehicle.


so why is it on an o-licence instead of PH or "exec" plate like what we got ear

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By the way did you see me going through Lichfield in my pink limo last night or did I pass through un-noticed. :mrgreen:


A pink limo how fab if I ever get down there can I have ride, please :D


Of course you can and as it's run on a restricted PCV license, you can even have a drive if you like.


OMG a big pink mean machine to drive how fab, but, I couldn't what side is the steering wheel :?

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By the way did you see me going through Lichfield in my pink limo last night or did I pass through un-noticed. :mrgreen:


A pink limo how fab if I ever get down there can I have ride, please :D


Of course you can and as it's run on a restricted PCV license, you can even have a drive if you like.


OMG a big pink mean machine to drive how fab, but, I couldn't what side is the steering wheel :?


on the drivers side of course..

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so why is it on an o-licence instead of PH or "exec" plate like what we got ear

Cos they don't have to bother with all that licensing and CRB lark. [-X

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so why is it on an o-licence instead of PH or "exec" plate like what we got ear

Cos they don't have to bother with all that licensing and CRB lark. [-X


getting an o-licence (restricted) is only available without a CPC to taxi operators though, so wheres the savings?

plus you involve VOSA, etc?

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By the way did you see me going through Lichfield in my pink limo last night or did I pass through un-noticed. :mrgreen:


A pink limo how fab if I ever get down there can I have ride, please :D


Of course you can and as it's run on a restricted PCV license, you can even have a drive if you like.


wont she need a d1 licence?..


No. It is an 8 passenger vehicle.


so why is it on an o-licence instead of PH or "exec" plate like what we got ear


This vehicle is on a restricted O license because it is owned and operated by myself and another chap from a different LA. Due to the fact that the drivers do not all come from the same area it was not possible to get them PH badged for the one area. The 2 areas are 40 miles apart and we considered it was not feasable to get someone to pass the knowlege test for both areas particulaly when most of the work is not even in either area. The drivers are licensed by their respective councils for our other work. My other 2 limousines are both licensed with my LA. My main business is Taxis and exec cars and his main business is executive cars.

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What side is the drivers side/steering wheel?

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What side is the drivers side/steering wheel?


FFS....

its ALWAYS on the drivers side

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Grandad, you know the wording over getting a non-cpc o-licence to run (is it 2?) 16 seaters (aka sometimes as "minibuses"), etc, says "taxi firms whose normal business is taxi (etc)", does that ONLY include HCs?....or would they not draw any distinction in this between HC and PH?

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What side is the drivers side/steering wheel?


It is on the left side.

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Grandad, you know the wording over getting a non-cpc o-licence to run (is it 2?) 16 seaters (aka sometimes as "minibuses"), etc, says "taxi firms whose normal business is taxi (etc)", does that ONLY include HCs?....or would they not draw any distinction in this between HC and PH?


I'm not sure what you mean.

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Grandad, you know the wording over getting a non-cpc o-licence to run (is it 2?) 16 seaters (aka sometimes as "minibuses"), etc, says "taxi firms whose normal business is taxi (etc)", does that ONLY include HCs?....or would they not draw any distinction in this between HC and PH?


it does not matter whether you are HC or PHV as far as i`m aware,i have run a restricted O licence on two 16 seater minibuses for several years although i had both HC & PHV vehicles at the time of application they made no checks as far as i`m aware that i was indeed a taxi business other than what was my company name and a written statement from myself that operating the minibuses was not my main business

i am however an RSA qualified national cpc holder in both passenger & haulage operations but i chose the restricted licence route for my minibuses as it was easier to obtain and cheaper although i had no issues in obtaining a national licence if i had wanted too

you do still require for either restricted or national licence to provide evidence of sufficient available funding for each vehicles upkeep & maintainence you require licences for from memory but don`t quote me £5000 for the first vehicle and £3000 for each vehicle thereafter being only one more if restricted these figures have probably changed though as been a few years since i operated on restricted O licence

you also require a written maintence contract drawn up with a local garage and the inspection period notified to them in my case it was 6 weekly inspections

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and vehicle defect report forms and driver daily walkround inspection forms drawn up for the vehicles you want to run


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the following items copied & pasted from government website

Restricted licence - for small operations only
This only allows you to use one or two vehicles, neither of which must be constructed to carry more than eight passengers. However, you can use vehicles carrying up to 16 passengers if you do not use them as part of a passenger transport business, or you are operating your vehicles as a sideline and not your main occupation

as you can see no mention of HC or PHV but if that is your main business write a statement to that effect so you can obtain this type of licence as the minibuses won`t be your main business thus allowing up to 16 seaters as it states above

however this licence does state taxi only

Special licence - for taxis only
Only licensed taxi operators can apply for a Special PSV licence. You may only use it to operate a licensed taxi on a local service, and you must register this service with the Traffic Commissioner. For London services, you must get a London local service licence or an agreement with London Transport Buses.

the above is different from a restricted O licence


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getting an o-licence (restricted) is only available without a CPC to taxi operators though, so wheres the savings?

I doubt it matters too much in relation to operators, but it does in relation to drivers cos anyone with a normal DVLA license can drive, even if they have just come out of prison for murder/rape. :sad:

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v33tra wrote:
the following items copied & pasted from government website

Restricted licence - for small operations only
This only allows you to use one or two vehicles, neither of which must be constructed to carry more than eight passengers. However, you can use vehicles carrying up to 16 passengers if you do not use them as part of a passenger transport business, or you are operating your vehicles as a sideline and not your main occupation

as you can see no mention of HC or PHV but if that is your main business write a statement to that effect so you can obtain this type of licence as the minibuses won`t be your main business thus allowing up to 16 seaters as it states above

however this licence does state taxi only

Special licence - for taxis only
Only licensed taxi operators can apply for a Special PSV licence. You may only use it to operate a licensed taxi on a local service, and you must register this service with the Traffic Commissioner. For London services, you must get a London local service licence or an agreement with London Transport Buses.

the above is different from a restricted O licence


thats where ive been confused then, the difference bewteen restricted and special, i knew id seen "taxi" somewhere

sideline...... laughable int it....sideline ...as if

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