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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:42 pm 
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You are all RIGHT! However if a council suspects you of taking landline bookings from home, they will invariably want to check you out & get their snout in the trough. I suspect that they are powerless to stop you unless there is an environmental issue.


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You are all RIGHT! However if a council suspects you of taking landline bookings from home, they will invariably want to check you out & get their snout in the trough. I suspect that they are powerless to stop you unless there is an environmental issue.

It's worth noting that councils can only do what a law allows them to do.

If there is no law saying Mr Ram can't do something, then he can. :wink:

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Why does your touneo have to be flashed white to become a hackney


cos hacks here have to be white, unless its a purpose built (?) vehicle, when it can be any colour and upto 10 years old....

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Mr Ram were are you?


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Mr Ram were are you?

I think his user name might be a clue. :roll: :roll:

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Sussex wrote:
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Mr Ram were are you?

I think his user name might be a clue. :roll: :roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Many thanks for all your input guys.
I must confess I am still a little confused.
Does an 0800 number make me immune from my local council or is that suggestion to run under their radar?Could be a little late for that!
Do my bookings in any way make me a PH operator or am I just a Hack who has private work?
This is where I got the no advertising outside your district from...

http://www.hinckley-bosworth.gov.uk/pp/ ... e&ID=10567

6. Where can I operate the private hire operators business?

Private hire operators can take bookings from, anywhere in the country and journeys may start and end outside the area in which the business is situated. However, operators can only advertise in the borough in which they are licensed.
So as a hackney operator this doesn't apply to me???
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Where can I operate the private hire operators business.

You Are a hackney not a Private Hire

So That Does Not apply's to you ,

1. For what purpose is a private hire operator’s licence required?

Anyone who in the course of business makes provision for the invitation or acceptance of a booking for a private hire journey is regarded as an 'Operator' and he must hold an Operators Licence, unless he is covered by an exemption within the 1976 Act. This means that any individual, group, or company, which offers or advertises the services of a vehicle with less than 9 passenger seats with a driver for hire and reward is an Operator. Anyone who makes provision which would enable him to accept bookings for a private hire journey should be required to hold an Operators Licence. On 28th October 2004 the High Court in London decided that proprietors of hackney carriages who provide a private hire service with their hackney carriages do not require an Operators Licence.[b][/b]


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As a Hack, you are legaly entitled to take private hire bookings. Look at it like this...Private Hire can only do Private Hire work, whilst Hacks can do PH work & flagdowns & rank work. The vehicle is the operating centre. The Hackney TAXI is therefore a superior license by definition!


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Derby Ram wrote:
Do my bookings in any way make me a PH operator or am I just a Hack who has private work?

You are never a PH operator unless you operate PH's.

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im a PHV, and have a LO PH ops licence, but i take anything from anywhere to anywhere, off almost anyone.....

apart from sitting on a rank all day for a few cash jobs or the chance to pickup off the streets in my own LA i fail to see what im missing by not being HC plated...

phones, magazine adverts and t'interwebnet know no boundaries...

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You have a taxi license and a taxi cab you do not need a private hire operators license because you do not operate as a private hire YOU ARE A TAXI and you can take bookings from Lands End to John Ogroats if you want to but you cannot PLY for hire outside your own licensing area


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You have a taxi license and a taxi cab you do not need a private hire operators license because you do not operate as a private hire YOU ARE A TAXI and you can take bookings from Lands End to John Ogroats if you want to but you cannot PLY for hire outside your own licensing area


So by definition what exactly is plying for hire! is it driving with your hire light on which would seem more pertinent, or is advertising in a mag or the net included?

To stretch it a bit further, if I put my telephone number on my cab but I have my hire light off - am I plying/inviting?

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Hire light should not be on out of your own area, I think the problem is 2 different sets of rules are getting muddled no telephones in 1847 were there.


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tcabbie wrote:
Hire light should not be on out of your own area, I think the problem is 2 different sets of rules are getting muddled no telephones in 1847 were there.


Were there any for hire lights in 1847 or were they just signs?

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