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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:39 pm 
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Mental Health Act / schizophrenia


He should fit in quite well :lol:

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GBC wrote:
They're all at it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8233750.stm

Bob Oddy / Crowe / Steve McNamara all comment, see the video.

The LCDC are doing the demo. :?


Demo outside the PCO tomorrow afternoon from 2pm, organised by the RMT

All concerned driver's are invited \:D/

Look forward to seeing you there Mr GBC. :D


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Unlike your goodself Mr CSP, I don't own one of those Tardis taxis that transport you great distances in a few minutes. :wink:

I'm on tour at the moment, taking the LTDA to the masses.

Enjoy it anyway, say 'Hi' to Whitey, tell him to remain calm and watch his blood pressure.


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What concerns me is the fact that health professionals have been wrong before about people they have had released, because they are no longer a threat to society, only to be proven wrong.

Does this individual take medication to control his behaviour and will there be significant change in his behaviour if he fails to take it

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What concerns me is the fact that health professionals have been wrong before about people they have had released, because they are no longer a threat to society, only to be proven wrong.

Does this individual take medication to control his behaviour and will there be significant change in his behaviour if he fails to take it


Your walking right into a comment such as.....are you speaking from experience :lol:

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toots wrote:
Does this individual take medication to control his behaviour and will there be significant change in his behaviour if he fails to take it


Mr CSP seems fit and healthy enough when he posts on here? One dose of an RMT 12 man demo, then who knows! :D


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up-date.the daily mail have released the cab drivers name on their web-site read story AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELF ......are the PCO FIT FOR PURPOSE?.............sorry pepes no link available.

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OH! AND DIDNT THE CANIBAL CHAP WHO HAS KILLED 3 TIMES forget to take his medication I have every faith in our examiners dont you

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Well, the RMT drive in- picket went very well and attracted many concerned Taxi driver's :)

Apparently Grunt & very Odd have organised a repeat "UNITED" demo for a week later! (same place, same venue) :lol: Been there, done that!!! :lol:

Maybe if GBC was in town they might have kept up pace with the trade leader's!!!!


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Then that one will block the whole of Islington, and not just Penton Street.

Naturaly being a Railway man, you'll be excused from attending that one Mr CSP.

You can clear up that day, but I'd avoid the N1 area. :wink:


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GBC wrote:
Then that one will block the whole of Islington, and not just Penton Street.

Naturaly being a Railway man, you'll be excused from attending that one Mr CSP.

You can clear up that day, but I'd avoid the N1 area. :wink:


Never fear Mr GBC, the red banner is never far, we might even bring it to support our fellow brother's (make up the number's)on Thursday! 8)

By the way, as the railway membership is over 1.500 & growing (6 months old :shock: ), there's a good cafe opposite the yard where they serve a splendid all day brekie!!! :P , i 'm more than happy to compromise a bit of tucker in there rather than Lydia's! =P~

See you Thursday :wink:


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A convicted killer who is being allowed to train as a black cab driver was cautioned for assault less than three months ago.
Shamsul Haque, 38, a paranoid schizophrenic, was arrested by police in June after admitting assault.
He strangled his wife nine years ago and later admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
Despite being made aware of both his conviction and recent arrest, Transport for London (TfL) officials still allowed Haque to take 'the Knowledge' - a series of exams over a period of years where potential taxi drivers have to learn routes in and around London.
Convicted killer: Shamsul Haque is allowed to train as a black cab driver despite being cautioned for assault less than three months ago
But TfL officials failed to mention his recent assault conviction when defending their actions earlier this week, reported the London Evening Standard.
Jeroen Weimar, TfL's director of enforcement and compliance, said: 'The independent medical opinion is that this man poses no danger to the public and is fit and proper to train to be a taxi driver.'
Following his arrest in 2000, Haque was sentenced to indefinite detention under the Mental Health Act in January 2001 before being released two years later in 2003.
There are concerns that he still poses a threat to women despite his protestations that his schizophrenia has been brought under control by drugs.

At least one woman examiner at TfL has refused to be in the same room as him and the case has led to a row within Transport for London and the Public Carriage Office, which regulates the black cab trade.
Black cab rapist: London taxi driver John Worboys was convicted of assaulting 12 women
The circumstances of the June assault are not clear but one source said it was related to Haque's current work as a minicab driver.
A TfL spokesman said today: 'We can confirm that the man made us aware that he had received a caution for assault.
'As a result, we suspended his Knowledge appearances for one month and warned him that if he came to our attention again, he would not be allowed to continue taking the exam.'
Haque's suspension has ended and he has now resumed his studies.
However, the TfL spokesman said: 'We do recognise that this is an issue of public concern. Passenger safety is our first priority.
'We will include this decision (on the assault) in the scope of the independent review we have commissioned into our actions.'
Politicians and the cab trade reacted with disbelief.
'It makes you wonder what TfL is doing,' said Tory Assembly member Andrew Boff.

'You just cannot put the public at risk like this. They need to sort this out quickly otherwise they will damage the reputation of the best taxi service in the world.'
TfL said it is powerless to act because Haque was detained under the Mental Health Act, meaning his conviction is 'spent' under offender rehabilitation laws after five years. The assault caution is also 'spent'.
However, the review commissioned by TfL will examine whether the authority could have acted differently. Although TfL describes it as 'independent', it will be conducted by two former senior officials at the Public Carriage Office, the division of TfL responsible for the cab trade.
Alan Fleming, former chairman of the London Cab Drivers' Club, described TfL's behaviour as 'outrageous' and said the law did give it the power to block Haque from training.
He said: 'The 1934 Cab Order gives the licensing authority a discretionary power to reject applicants and they should use it.'
Cabbies are planning a protest demonstration outside the PCO.

The cab trade is still in shock after the conviction of John Worboys, 51, this year. The former stripper from South-East London drugged and assaulted a number of women in the back of his taxi.


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What I can't understand here is that TFL say that these convictions are "spent" but how many authorities do not consider ANY convictions to be spent when issuing drivers badges. I know ours insist that convictions an never spent for taxi/ph drivers.

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i understand they can still invoke the hackney carriage act and use the "fit and proper person" clause as a point of refusal.

Sadly what we are seeing here is a social experiment where the powers that be are using a mentally ill man for their own gains.

They should be ashamed of themselves for not only putting the public potentially in danger but also for attempting to destroy our reputation and also for subjecting this man to what i would imagine is a nightmare in the form of the negative publicity he is receiving............that's really going to do his rehabilitation much good!

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