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Doom.. you do realise that as the Edinburgh survey has stated their is no unmet demand... every applicant requesting a licence must be issued one ...... as they cannot refuse....



Yeah I realise, but isn't that a contradiction of terms in itself, no demand so we'll issue anyway, or another way of putting it using those guidelines to an extreme is that anything I want in life from this point onwards I have the right to demand and receive without question no matter the concequences?

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Ali can I ask you if I've understood this correctly. From what I can make out of the threads you've posted in you've already had one plate issued and sold it and you now have another plate which you plan to put on a vehicle that just meets the standards :?

had one plate sold it and now have 2 more
what do you mean just meets the standards :?:
is there some system in place that shows how far you exceed the standards, a fail sheet will tell you what needs to be done to reach the standard i cant think how they would do it to show youve exceeded the standard,nor what possible purpose exceeding the standard would achieve.
methinks a warped sense of morality is creeping in here :?:


Firstly my morality isn't in question be it warped or otherwise. I only wanted to establish if I understood the situation correctly. It's not for me to judge whether or not you are right or wrong in what you do. With regards to standards there are meeting the standards (which in some cases can be pretty low) and bettering the standards cos perhaps your standards are higher than thiers.

I obviously wasn't fully up to date with the situation cos you have another 2 plates and not 1. I don't understand why you would need 2 plates cos you can obviously only drive 1 vehicle, but, as I said 'who am I to judge anybody I'm far from perfect and not in a position to judge anybodies morality. It's a shame that somebody has to go without so you can have your 2 plates tho and prove a point, but, so be it

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you plan to put on a vehicle that just meets the standards :?
i jumped to that conclusion becouse of what you wrote! toots.
read it again and come to youre own conclusions
if my morality is in question then so is everybody elses im afraid.


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ALI T wrote:
you plan to put on a vehicle that just meets the standards :?
i jumped to that conclusion becouse of what you wrote! toots.
read it again and come to youre own conclusions
if my morality is in question then so is everybody elses im afraid.


I don't plan to put a vehicle on anywhere that just meets the standards. I don't jump to conclusions either, I ask questions. I never brought your morality into anything it was you suggesting a warped morality not I. As I said it's not for me to judge. I just wanted the facts regarding the plates that you hav obtained and what you did with them

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shakes his head in disbelief
toots if you cant see it i cant be bothered pointing it out anymore.


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Certain comments appear a little heavy handed to someone who is asking legitimate questions in order to try to grasp an overall understanding of the situation. It's a shame that replies cannot be made in the same spirit of inproving understanding.


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ok ill make this simple

how do you know if youve exceeded the standards :?:

do you get a test cert and 5 gold stars on youre windscreen and a pat on the head :lol:

lol nothing personal toots but you did imply that i was intentionally just meeting the standards,that to me means you disaprove in some way to older vehicles,whatever you found that on is youre business,but by doing so you are implying that somehow youre standards are better and youre standards should be imposed on everyone else,thats a question of morality in my opinion.

i may be reading to much into what you said,but heh thats just what i do over analyse everything.
anyway no offence intended


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Doom.. Alastair is quite correct..... my post should have read that the survey shows there is a unmet demand..... and Alastair's arguments were always that the driver should be able to have his own plate and work it, and anybody else who rented taxis out was exploiting the drivers.... and people whose sold plates which they recede for nothing should be burned..... and don't forget buying a new E7 with a free plate would cost a lot less than 200 a week..... utopia for the driver..... it seems he has turned into everything he despises.
The problem seems to be that Edinburgh council have no criterion when it comes to issuing.... that can only be the fault of the existing trade.... :wink:

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MR T I have to inform you a new E7 will cost at least around the £200pw mark to run over a sensible lifespan of 3-4 years, which is about all they are fit for before they need engines and gearboxes and sliding doors, so you'll be looking at £130-£150pw in repayments, £16-£30 insurance depending on status, and anyone not putting up a min of £20pw for repairs and runnings is a fool, then you add the circuit cost and those baron's look quite a good idea, and if you drive rather than own it's risk free isn't it.


@ Ali, iirc you told me the last cab was a T reg 1999 Metrocab? if this was the case it will have been around the world already and be a rattly bag of bolts, as any vehicle ends up after five years of the public using it, I can only assume you will go down the same road with the two you have for your plates now, plus you've asked how to replace sills in another thread so I think that kinda gives the game away as to the quality of cab you intent to unleash on the public, until you sell up again o'course. :wink:


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ALI T wrote:
ok ill make this simple

how do you know if youve exceeded the standards :?:

do you get a test cert and 5 gold stars on youre windscreen and a pat on the head :lol:

lol nothing personal toots but you did imply that i was intentionally just meeting the standards,that to me means you disaprove in some way to older vehicles,whatever you found that on is youre business,but by doing so you are implying that somehow youre standards are better and youre standards should be imposed on everyone else,thats a question of morality in my opinion.

i may be reading to much into what you said,but heh thats just what i do over analyse everything.
anyway no offence intended


I wasn't really bothered about the standard of your vehicle it was just a comment. What I was curious about was if you wanted a plate why did you sell the first one and what do you need 2 for now if you can indeed only drive one vehicle. It would appear that Mr T has answered the question more fully than you. You did over analyse what I said and there was no offence intended here and none was taken

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MR T wrote:
Doom.. Alastair is quite correct..... my post should have read that the survey shows there is a unmet demand..... and Alastair's arguments were always that the driver should be able to have his own plate and work it, and anybody else who rented taxis out was exploiting the drivers.... and people whose sold plates which they recede for nothing should be burned..... and don't forget buying a new E7 with a free plate would cost a lot less than 200 a week..... utopia for the driver..... it seems he has turned into everything he despises.
The problem seems to be that Edinburgh council have no criterion when it comes to issuing.... that can only be the fault of the existing trade.... :wink:

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truth is mr t you have no idea what i intend to do with the plates.
nor how many plates i have actually applied for. :wink:
how can i be a plate baron when we are effectivly deresrticted :lol:
what you describe above is you.
my opinion of that hasnt changed in that you are correct,what i really despise is guys that claim to be one thing and are in fact another.
you and cc have actively lobbied for years to keep others under youre control so that it benefits you! and is to the detriment of the drivers.
remember the thomsongate affair youre corrupt mr t of that i have no doubt.
we have a similar group of so called reps in edinburgh they have no clue iether and are only in it for themselves.
i have no problem with drivers not wanting there own taxi,but the choice should be there if they so decide to get there own plate.without paying someone a vast sum of money for it.
the problem with rentals is you guys actually make it more expensive to rent,it should be cheaper to rent than buy,thats exploitation in my opinion.
freedom of choice
btw renting out taxis in a derestriced market works just fine,you just have to be more realistic and less greedy.
thats probably why youre having trouble adjusting :wink:
the games nearly up the spout mr t wont be long :lol:

and youre mixing me up with the £200 a week taxi that was jim and garry.
i always said i could do it for much less and proved that you could when i put a taxi on for £800 and maintained it for peanuts and that was reaching the standard and maintianing things to a much higher degree than most ,when that metro was sold it was in the condition that it left the factory in ,that only proved what the likes of you were saying was nothing more than lies and further exploitation.


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MR T I have to inform you a new E7 will cost at least around the £200pw mark to run over a sensible lifespan of 3-4 years, which is about all they are fit for before they need engines and gearboxes and sliding doors, so you'll be looking at £130-£150pw in repayments, £16-£30 insurance depending on status, and anyone not putting up a min of £20pw for repairs and runnings is a fool, then you add the circuit cost and those baron's look quite a good idea, and if you drive rather than own it's risk free isn't it.


@ Ali, iirc you told me the last cab was a T reg 1999 Metrocab? if this was the case it will have been around the world already and be a rattly bag of bolts, as any vehicle ends up after five years of the public using it, I can only assume you will go down the same road with the two you have for your plates now, plus you've asked how to replace sills in another thread so I think that kinda gives the game away as to the quality of cab you intent to unleash on the public, until you sell up again o'course. :wink:

did you actually read what you just wrote
or cant you add up.
who says you need a radio btw.
its quite clear you know nothing about motors,but rather than argue the point ill just say youre lack of knowledge gives me a considerable competitive advantage over the "sign the credit agreement here please brigade".
and we all know you dont like competition eh doom


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MR T I have to inform you a new E7 will cost at least around the £200pw mark to run over a sensible lifespan of 3-4 years, which is about all they are fit for before they need engines and gearboxes and sliding doors, so you'll be looking at £130-£150pw in repayments, £16-£30 insurance depending on status, and anyone not putting up a min of £20pw for repairs and runnings is a fool, then you add the circuit cost and those baron's look quite a good idea, and if you drive rather than own it's risk free isn't it.


@ Ali, iirc you told me the last cab was a T reg 1999 Metrocab? if this was the case it will have been around the world already and be a rattly bag of bolts, as any vehicle ends up after five years of the public using it, I can only assume you will go down the same road with the two you have for your plates now, plus you've asked how to replace sills in another thread so I think that kinda gives the game away as to the quality of cab you intent to unleash on the public, until you sell up again o'course. :wink:

did you actually read what you just wrote
or cant you add up.
who says you need a radio btw.
its quite clear you know nothing about motors,but rather than argue the point ill just say youre lack of knowledge gives me a considerable competitive advantage over the "sign the credit agreement here please brigade".
and we all know you dont like competition eh doom




Look know ****all the thing you miss is if you've done it other's will, so get yer begging shoes on because before long you will need a radio circuit just to run your clapped out ex someotherauthority px that someone else didn't want anymore because it had done it's time, as for knowing cars I've rebuilt engines etc for longer than I've been a cabby so I do know my way around one and I also know there is a saying in the motor trade that you can't make a good one out of a bad one, and that every engine only has so many revolutions in it, insisting on new WAV vehicles doesn't stop ppl either, nearly 100 ppl took one on here just to get a plate, that's why I know what you are doing will eventually kill the trade where you are, but however it does help keep standards up so it's not a bad thing, so like I said many a time to you your ethics are wrong and you are just another part of the reason the UK will degrade even further over the next 30 years, still you're just following the lead set out by your fellow countymen who infiltrated the Labour party, i.e Blair,Brown and Reid etc in only thinking of yourself and sod everyone else, you see I have the advantage over you as I know many Scottish ppl due to them migrating down here over the last 50 years or so, and they are one of two types, either been sent out of Scotland because they can't live safely anymore because they've upset ppl (look in the mirror Ali this might be you before long) or rock solid looking for something better when there was not a lot of work in Scotland, I can always spot who is who because the first one I mention spends most of it's time drunk and telling ppl how great Scotland is and trying to be a low grade gangster, where the other fits in with an accent, you however don't know the English at all, you know what you've done is wrong and for all the wrong reasons, coming onto forums to try justifying your actions will always be empty to me and I would have hated to have someone like you in my unit in a conflict/war situation because you can be neither trusted or relied upon and have absolutely no idea of the concept of being a team.


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well the way things are going with the apathy and ignorance and the mass mob mentality it wont be that long before you can throw me in a camp for undesirables somewhere were ill manufacture plastic plates for you to put on youre taxi.
be carefull though becouse they will come for you to! they always do. :shock:
btw i was on forums long before i got my plate
and i have never tried to justify myself to anyone,like most i see the world through my eyes,and i make no apology for that.
however i do not try to impose my way on other ppl(i want an old cab you want a new one im not stopping you getting one am i)you on the other hand would have some unnecesery requirement imposed on all,when there is already a perfectly good test that must be past to ensure public saftey.
you moan about the state of this country doom,when it is this sort of crap that allows them to wither away youre rights,the nanny state soon turns into a fascist one if you let it these things creep into cultures and society.
thats one thing i admire about the french they will shut there counrty down when there liberty is threatened.
perhaps what we need is a revolution in this counrty it did the french a power of good.
sweep all the crap away and start again


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