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There is no proof of that. Just propaganda.

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You will be telling us next that there was no holocaust, and that it was just propaganda.

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Grandad,

I'd prefer to exercise my right to have a night out and return home without smelling of fags!

Gus is correct ppl, there is no real link to passive smoking and cancer, or at least none they can prove anyway and that is a fact.

There are other health issues apart from cancer! as a side thought would you stand over a bonfire and inhale the smoke..........not a lot of difference.

I will give you this thought. For 27 years my wife and I ran pubs, after being out one day I was coming into the foyer when I noticed one of the "Health and work/factory official notices" had marks on them! upon looking I noticed someone had leaned against this PVC notice with their hand and had basically left finger marks in the nicotine that had stained the notice.

The point being is that this was a non living/breathing item away from the actual bars and was stained with nicotine. Your lungs are not meant to be stained with anything so why does anyone think that it is alright that someone who does not smoke should put up with it. It stinks and it lingers, which also means it is in the same environment as a person who does not smoke, so just because it is static it does not mean that it is harmless.

Make no mistake asbestos was around for many years before the Gov admitted it will and can kill you just by breathing it in...........so would you trust this Gov to tell you the real real real facts..........Not me. I just follow the premise if it does not seem right then more often than not, it is not.

Sermon over

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if i take up smoking can i get a grant to quit?

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Did you then ban all smoking in your pub?

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Not at all. There is plenty of evidence of the holocaust, which is rather more than can be said of the risks attributed to passive smoking.
Traffic emmits far more cancer causing chemicals every day but I don't see anyone on here advocating the elimination of the internal combustion engine.
FFS anyone would think ppl didn't get lung cancer before Walter Raleigh.

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we rarely went out (pubs/meals/etc) until smoking was banned, so i dont think the fall in sales was quite as dire as some made out, a few smokers may have stayed at home, but non-smokers probably more than made up the difference

just been up the pub and £90 was spent, we wouldnt have done that before the ban

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Were you lonely in there?

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I'll have to agree with the hand print one as I leaned on a bar in a white shirt and came away with a brown elbow, but that is not nicotine alone, that's dead skin cells also and whatever else was floating in the air, the difference between asbestos and ciggy smoke is asbestos is made of shards of glass so it will do far more damage, but regardless there should be the option for both smokers and non smokers to have a night out, after we had to put up with the smell of your farts when the ban first came in

So you think blowing smoke in a baby's face wont have any effect on him?

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IDFIMH

nope, every table was full in the eatery, and the bar was 70% full

a few smokers sat outside, where they belonged....

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and.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... round.html

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Unfortunately I could not as it was a brewery pub, and in fairness business wise it had to be done nationally.

For those who prefer to blame the demise of pubs on the smoking ban.

Yes it is bound to have had an affect! but not nearly enough to cause the closures. The common denominator is the crazy cost that the brewery's themselves have instigated. I have a complete price list from 1976 and a pint of beer was 23p Lager 30p and cigs B&H 23 1/2 p per 10, Senior Service was 55 1/2p per pack of (20).By 1987 beer was 73p and lager 83p unfortunately I have no record of cigs.

Breweries were always considered recession proof working on the basis that industrial Britain drank in good and bad times. The brewers have continued to push the prices up to the point of ...........if we have to close the pub, welllll all we have got to do is to sell the pub/property and build a block of flats/apartments and that will more than cover the profits for a few years.

Just like the continentals who make a bottle of wine for a few pennies our lot do the same with beer. If the brewers were to sell it for a £1 a pint today............they would still be making a good profit ! but no doubt they have looked at the likes of Norway who for years have charged £sss more per pint than us and as such have their eyes on bigger profits having learnt from others.

The problems that we see today is not caused by the cigs ban, it is just greedy brewers.

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